Hi Raúl,

> I am also happy to help with the releases on the Java repository and,
> as with Go, I am also happy to help with some of the migration tasks.

Thanks!

> As a side note, in general I tend to have more problems with
> JavaScript when releasing, verifying, etcetera. I would love for
> JavaScript to move to its own repository but here I think we have to
> make a bigger effort on finding committers and PMCs to have an active
> and stable maintenance.

OK. Let's discuss this in a separated new thread. Could you
start a new thread?


Thanks,
-- 
kou

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  "Re: [DISCUSS] Split Java release process" on Mon, 18 Nov 2024 09:25:07 +0100,
  Raúl Cumplido <rau...@apache.org> wrote:

> I am also +1 on moving the Java implementation to its own repository.
> 
> I am also happy to help with the releases on the Java repository and,
> as with Go, I am also happy to help with some of the migration tasks.
> 
> As a side note, in general I tend to have more problems with
> JavaScript when releasing, verifying, etcetera. I would love for
> JavaScript to move to its own repository but here I think we have to
> make a bigger effort on finding committers and PMCs to have an active
> and stable maintenance.
> 
> Thanks,
> Raúl
> 
> El lun, 18 nov 2024 a las 9:17, David Li (<lidav...@apache.org>) escribió:
>>
>> While early, it seems to have gone well for Go. The ability to do more 
>> frequent point releases for Java might be interesting.
>>
>> Since the JNI JARs bundle the C++ libraries when built, we can build off of 
>> the latest released C++ version whenever the Java project needs to release, 
>> and not have to worry too much about maintaining runtime compatibility with 
>> multiple versions (only with making sure we aren't "caught out" by upstream 
>> changes).
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 18, 2024, at 17:07, Gang Wu wrote:
>> > +1 on splitting the Java codebase!
>> >
>> > I'm not an active contributor/reviewer to the Java codebase, though I have
>> > several contributions to it in the past. I can volunteer to be a release
>> > manager
>> > on the Java side if I can help. I have some experience in releasing orc and
>> > parquet-java in the past.
>> >
>> > Best,
>> > Gang
>> >
>> > On Mon, Nov 18, 2024 at 4:01 PM Antoine Pitrou <anto...@python.org> wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Hi Kou,
>> >>
>> >> Thanks a lot for bringing this.
>> >>
>> >> I'm +1 on the principle, both for splitting the Java release process and
>> >> moving the Java implementation into another repository.
>> >>
>> >> We do need to find more maintainers for Arrow Java, but that is true
>> >> regardless of whether the Java implementation stays in the monorepo.
>> >>
>> >> (also, I don't know if David Li would like to be described as
>> >> "Java-focused" :-))
>> >>
>> >> Regards
>> >>
>> >> Antoine.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Le 18/11/2024 à 08:55, Sutou Kouhei a écrit :
>> >> > Hi,
>> >> >
>> >> > This is a similar discussion to the "[DISCUSS] Split Go
>> >> > release process" thread:
>> >> > https://lists.apache.org/thread/fstyfvzczntt9mpnd4f0b39lzb8cxlyf
>> >> >
>> >> > How about splitting Java release process from other
>> >> > apache/arrow components like apache/arrow-go? Here are
>> >> > some reasons of this proposal:
>> >> >
>> >> > * The Java implementation is a native implementation not
>> >> >    bindings
>> >> >    * Some modules are the bindings of the C++ implementation
>> >> >      but we can support multiple C++ version if needed like
>> >> >      the R implementation does
>> >> > * We can simplify apache/arrow release by splitting the Java
>> >> >    implementation
>> >> > * We'll be able to use more minor/patch releases for the
>> >> >    Java implementation instead of major releases like the Go
>> >> >    implementation
>> >> >
>> >> > Here is my idea how to proceed this:
>> >> >
>> >> > 1. Extract java/ in apache/arrow to apache/arrow-java like
>> >> >     apache/arrow-go
>> >> >     * Filter java/ related commits from apache/arrow and create
>> >> >       apache/arrow-java with them like we did for apache/arrow-go
>> >> >     * Remove java/ related codes from apache/arrow
>> >> > 2. Prepare integration test CI like apache/arrow-go does:
>> >> >
>> >> https://github.com/apache/arrow-go/blob/main/.github/workflows/test.yml
>> >> > 3. Prepare release script based on apache/arrow-go
>> >> >
>> >> > We can reuse some release scripts in dev/release/ in
>> >> > apache/arrow like we did in apache/arrow-adbc.
>> >> >
>> >> > Cons of this idea:
>> >> >
>> >> > * There is only one active Java focused PMC member and
>> >> >    committer: David Li
>> >> >    * We need to increase active Java focused PMC members and
>> >> >      committers for stable maintenance
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > What do you think about this?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks,
>> >>

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