Hi Raúl, > I am also happy to help with the releases on the Java repository and, > as with Go, I am also happy to help with some of the migration tasks.
Thanks! > As a side note, in general I tend to have more problems with > JavaScript when releasing, verifying, etcetera. I would love for > JavaScript to move to its own repository but here I think we have to > make a bigger effort on finding committers and PMCs to have an active > and stable maintenance. OK. Let's discuss this in a separated new thread. Could you start a new thread? Thanks, -- kou In <cad1rbrogmur5ek8ed937zujr8t4e++rkbznnypj-pfdr9f7...@mail.gmail.com> "Re: [DISCUSS] Split Java release process" on Mon, 18 Nov 2024 09:25:07 +0100, Raúl Cumplido <rau...@apache.org> wrote: > I am also +1 on moving the Java implementation to its own repository. > > I am also happy to help with the releases on the Java repository and, > as with Go, I am also happy to help with some of the migration tasks. > > As a side note, in general I tend to have more problems with > JavaScript when releasing, verifying, etcetera. I would love for > JavaScript to move to its own repository but here I think we have to > make a bigger effort on finding committers and PMCs to have an active > and stable maintenance. > > Thanks, > Raúl > > El lun, 18 nov 2024 a las 9:17, David Li (<lidav...@apache.org>) escribió: >> >> While early, it seems to have gone well for Go. The ability to do more >> frequent point releases for Java might be interesting. >> >> Since the JNI JARs bundle the C++ libraries when built, we can build off of >> the latest released C++ version whenever the Java project needs to release, >> and not have to worry too much about maintaining runtime compatibility with >> multiple versions (only with making sure we aren't "caught out" by upstream >> changes). >> >> On Mon, Nov 18, 2024, at 17:07, Gang Wu wrote: >> > +1 on splitting the Java codebase! >> > >> > I'm not an active contributor/reviewer to the Java codebase, though I have >> > several contributions to it in the past. I can volunteer to be a release >> > manager >> > on the Java side if I can help. I have some experience in releasing orc and >> > parquet-java in the past. >> > >> > Best, >> > Gang >> > >> > On Mon, Nov 18, 2024 at 4:01 PM Antoine Pitrou <anto...@python.org> wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> Hi Kou, >> >> >> >> Thanks a lot for bringing this. >> >> >> >> I'm +1 on the principle, both for splitting the Java release process and >> >> moving the Java implementation into another repository. >> >> >> >> We do need to find more maintainers for Arrow Java, but that is true >> >> regardless of whether the Java implementation stays in the monorepo. >> >> >> >> (also, I don't know if David Li would like to be described as >> >> "Java-focused" :-)) >> >> >> >> Regards >> >> >> >> Antoine. >> >> >> >> >> >> Le 18/11/2024 à 08:55, Sutou Kouhei a écrit : >> >> > Hi, >> >> > >> >> > This is a similar discussion to the "[DISCUSS] Split Go >> >> > release process" thread: >> >> > https://lists.apache.org/thread/fstyfvzczntt9mpnd4f0b39lzb8cxlyf >> >> > >> >> > How about splitting Java release process from other >> >> > apache/arrow components like apache/arrow-go? Here are >> >> > some reasons of this proposal: >> >> > >> >> > * The Java implementation is a native implementation not >> >> > bindings >> >> > * Some modules are the bindings of the C++ implementation >> >> > but we can support multiple C++ version if needed like >> >> > the R implementation does >> >> > * We can simplify apache/arrow release by splitting the Java >> >> > implementation >> >> > * We'll be able to use more minor/patch releases for the >> >> > Java implementation instead of major releases like the Go >> >> > implementation >> >> > >> >> > Here is my idea how to proceed this: >> >> > >> >> > 1. Extract java/ in apache/arrow to apache/arrow-java like >> >> > apache/arrow-go >> >> > * Filter java/ related commits from apache/arrow and create >> >> > apache/arrow-java with them like we did for apache/arrow-go >> >> > * Remove java/ related codes from apache/arrow >> >> > 2. Prepare integration test CI like apache/arrow-go does: >> >> > >> >> https://github.com/apache/arrow-go/blob/main/.github/workflows/test.yml >> >> > 3. Prepare release script based on apache/arrow-go >> >> > >> >> > We can reuse some release scripts in dev/release/ in >> >> > apache/arrow like we did in apache/arrow-adbc. >> >> > >> >> > Cons of this idea: >> >> > >> >> > * There is only one active Java focused PMC member and >> >> > committer: David Li >> >> > * We need to increase active Java focused PMC members and >> >> > committers for stable maintenance >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > What do you think about this? >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Thanks, >> >>