At code level we need to separate language features from library features?
It should be possible to leverage memory API for example through reflection
and/or multi-release jar files, but record is a language feature and it
would not possible to use it without targeting java 17 at the source level.

Laurent

On Tue, Apr 2, 2024 at 1:40 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net> wrote:

> Hi Laurent
>
> It makes sense to me. I started this "move" (on the plugin side of the
> thing) as part of the reproducible build effort.
>
> At code level, I think it would be great to leverage some features
> from Java 17+ (I'm thinking about record, memory API, etc).
> I would be more than happy to help on this as soon as we have a consensus.
>
> Thanks,
> Regards
> JB
>
> On Mon, Apr 1, 2024 at 7:48 PM Laurent Goujon
> <laur...@dremio.com.invalid> wrote:
> >
> > Hello Arrow Java developers,
> >
> > I would wonder if the community would be okay to change the minimum Java
> > version used by the build toolchain to at least Java 17 or 21 (or even
> 22).
> > This is different from changing the minimum Java version used at runtime
> > which would still be 8 (following the vote from last september).
> >
> > Concretely it would mean:
> > * Java 21 would be required to build Arrow Java
> > * But Arrow would still be compatible with Java 8
> > * Unit tests should keep running with Java 8 and higher.
> >
> > Reasons for changing the toolchain would be:
> > - More and more tools and plugins now require at least Java 11, forcing
> the
> > project to keep using older/unsupported versions
> > - We hacked our way to support Java modules with
> >
> https://github.com/apache/arrow/tree/main/java/maven/module-info-compiler-maven-plugin
> > - There are several new features which we could conditionally include in
> > the Arrow project like VarHandle (Java 9) and Foreign Function and Memory
> > API (Java 22) to move away from Unsafe support which require more and
> more
> > workarounds (Apache Lucene is a project which has managed to introduce
> > support for multiple Java incubator and final API while maintaining
> > compatibility with previous Java versions). But doing it from Java 8
> > creates a higher barrier.
> >
> > Laurent
>

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