I think the next step here would be to create a new repo so that Chao can
create a PR for the contribution, and then we can proceed to a vote.

Chao - do you have a proposal for the name of the project? Given that this
is being donated to Apache Arrow, the repo name will start with "arrow-".
Also, given that this is more of a DataFusion sub-project, I think it would
make sense to prefix the repo name with "arrow-datafusion-" and then rename
to "datafusion-" once we move the DataFusion projects to the new top-level
project.

If the vote passes, we must complete the IP clearance process before the PR
is accepted [1].

[1] https://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/



On Fri, Jan 12, 2024 at 12:36 AM Albert <zinki...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Like Andrew Lamb mentioned, blaze-rs has similar goals, I'd really be
> interested to know some comparisons when the donations are made.
> All in all, I look forward to the new native project for spark
> acceleration.
>
> On Thu, Jan 11, 2024 at 9:50 PM Andrew Lamb <al...@influxdata.com> wrote:
>
> > I am very supportive of this donation. I know of at least one other
> > DataFusion-based project, blaze-rs[1], which has the same design goal and
> > bringing this project into the ASF may help consolidate these efforts
> >
> > As Andy said, I believe it was very valuable to have a major consumer
> > project (e.g. DataFusion) to help drive the definition and implementation
> > of arrow-rs implementation. We never achieved the same synergy with
> > Ballista and DataFusion but I think it is more likely with a more
> actively
> > maintained Spark accelerator.
> >
> > I am not sure it affects this discussion, but the Gluten project, based
> on
> > Velox, was accepted yesterday[2] into the Apache Incubator[2].  While the
> > functionality may be similar, the technology (Rust vs C/C++) and the
> > communities are different so having both in the same (big) tent of the
> ASF
> > doesn't seem concerning to me.
> >
> > Also, as Chao says, I think this new sub project would naturally move to
> a
> > new DataFusion top level project when we get there (we plan a proposed
> > resolution April ASF board meeting)
> >
> > Looking forward to seeing more!
> > Andrew
> >
> > [1]: https://github.com/blaze-init/blaze
> > [2]: https://lists.apache.org/thread/6lrozds10jn9gknj9rf74lqbh7j55pq6
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 10, 2024 at 5:10 PM Andy Grove <andygrov...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Chao,
> > >
> > > This sounds like a really interesting project. I am interested in
> seeing
> > > how it compares to Spark RAPIDS (the project that I work on at NVIDIA)
> > and
> > > Intel's Gluten project (that works with Velox).
> > >
> > > I can see the following benefits of having this project being under
> > Apache
> > > Arrow governance:
> > >
> > > - Assuming that this is a drop-in replacement that doesn't require
> users
> > to
> > > change their code (as I imagine is the case), then it could lead to
> > greater
> > > adoption of DataFusion, especially for more demanding use cases where
> > > processing on a single node is not possible.
> > > - Given that it has a deep integration with the Rust implementation of
> > > Arrow as well as DataFusion, and given the overlap of committers
> between
> > > these projects, having them under the same governance and communication
> > > channels will generally be more efficient than if this project is
> > separate.
> > > - Hopefully this leads to more upstream contributions to DataFusion,
> > > perhaps even allowing other projects such as Ballista to benefit from
> > > Spark-compatible operators and expressions in the future.
> > > - Having another project that uses DataFusion as a dependency could
> help
> > > with stabilizing the public APIs and generally driving more innovation.
> > >
> > > Given these points, I would be supportive of a donation. I see it as
> > being
> > > similar to the Ballista project, which is already part of Arrow (and we
> > > plan to move along with DataFusion once it becomes a top-level
> project).
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Andy.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jan 10, 2024 at 2:28 PM Chao Sun <sunc...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > We have been working on a native execution engine for Apache Spark
> > > > that is heavily based on DataFusion and Arrow. Our goal is to
> > > > accelerate Spark query execution via delegating Spark's physical plan
> > > > execution to DataFusion's highly modular execution framework, while
> > > > still maintaining the same semantics to Spark users (i.e., no Spark
> > > > behavior change from the end users' point of view). Several of us are
> > > > Spark and/or Arrow committers. At the moment, the project is under
> > > > active development and not yet feature complete. However, some of the
> > > > existing functionalities are relatively mature and have been put in
> > > > production for a while now.
> > > >
> > > > Given the current momentum towards accelerating Spark through native
> > > > vectorized execution, we believe open sourcing this work will benefit
> > > > other Spark users too. In addition, we think the project itself can
> > > > also leverage the vibrant and strong community behind Arrow and
> > > > DataFusion, and grow faster. Because of this, we are exploring the
> > > > possibility of contributing this project to the Apache Software
> > > > Foundation (ASF) under the Apache Arrow project umbrella.
> > > >
> > > > We'd very much like to hear your opinion on this. Thanks.
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > > Chao
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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