Hello again all, It seems there hasn't been much interest in this point so I'm leaning toward keeping unsigned integers. If anyone has a concern please respond here and/or on the PR [1].
Sincerely, Ben Kietzman [1] https://github.com/apache/arrow/pull/37526#discussion_r1323029022 On Thu, Sep 14, 2023 at 9:31 AM David Li <lidav...@apache.org> wrote: > I think Java was usually raised as the odd child out when this has come up > before. Since Java 8 there are standard library methods to manipulate > signed integers as if they were unsigned, so in principle Java shouldn't be > a blocker anymore. > > That said, ByteBuffer is still indexed by int so in practice Java wouldn't > be able to handle more than 2 GB in a single buffer, at least until we can > use the Java 21+ APIs (MemorySegment is finally indexed by (signed) long). > > On Tue, Sep 12, 2023, at 11:40, Benjamin Kietzman wrote: > > Hello all, > > > > Utf8View was recently accepted [1] and I've opened a PR to add the > > spec/schema changes [2]. In review [3], it was requested that signed 32 > bit > > integers be used for the fields of view structs instead of 32 bit > unsigned. > > > > This divergence has been discussed on the ML previously [4], but in light > > of my reviewer's request for a change it should be raised again for > focused > > discussion. (At this stage, I don't *think* the change would require > > another vote.) I'll enumerate the motivations for signed and unsigned as > I > > understand them. > > > > Signed: > > - signed integers are conventional in the arrow format > > - unsigned integers may cause some difficulty of implementation in > > languages which don't natively support them > > > > Unsigned: > > - unsigned integers are used by engines which already implement Utf8View > > > > My own bias is toward compatibility with existing implementers, but using > > signed integers will only affect the case of arrays which include data > > buffers larger than 2GB. For reference, the default buffer size in velox > is > > 32KB so such a massive data buffer would only occur when a single slot > of a > > string array has 2.1GB of characters. This seems sufficiently unlikely > that > > I wouldn't consider it a blocker. > > > > Sincerely, > > Ben Kietzman > > > > [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/wt9j3q7qd59cz44kyh1zkts8s6wo1dn6 > > [2] https://github.com/apache/arrow/pull/37526 > > [3] https://github.com/apache/arrow/pull/37526#discussion_r1323029022 > > [4] https://lists.apache.org/thread/w88tpz76ox8h3rxkjl4so6rg3f1rv7wt > > [5] > > > https://github.com/facebookincubator/velox/blob/947d98c99a7cf05bfa4e409b1542abc89a28cb29/velox/vector/FlatVector.h#L46-L50 >