Thanks. Interesting story then with the back-forth moves.

I wonder if there might be some confusion between then Ray "Plasma" and
Arrow "Plasma" (as they seem to be different now). I guess neither Ray nor
Arrow has the name "trademark" on it in any way (nice name BTW). Maybe (and
I am sure Ray founders are listening here ;) ) - there should be some
effort from Ray to trademark it and get some nice "Rename
agreement/clarification" with Arrow since Arrow does not seem to care :) ?

The reason I am suggesting it, is when I first heard of it, and searched,
and asked my friend - he mentioned to me that it WILL be forked in the
future but it's the same now. Which I understand already happened and it's
not the same already.

I only found out the story by knowing the Apache Way and digging > 8 month
back in the devlist. So - just a suggestion - maybe worth clarifying it as
Ray becomes more and more popular - both Arrow community and Ray might
suffer due to people understanding the relation and state differently and
jumping to assumptions (as my friend did).

J.

On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 2:18 PM Neal Richardson <neal.p.richard...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Jarek,
> Your understanding sounds about right to me. That said, we are still
> building and shipping Plasma for those that have come to depend on it and
> will continue to do so unless/until it becomes a maintenance burden. But no
> one active in the Arrow community is working on Plasma.
>
> Neal
>
> On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 3:07 AM Jarek Potiuk <pot...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Hello Arrow Community,
> >
> > We've had a very interesting talk at the Apache Airflow Summit about
> > Airflow + Ray (which is really cool BTW and I am looking forward to
> > capabilities it will give to Airflow) and we had some discussions that
> > followed. From what I understand (maybe I am wrong?) the Plasma which was
> > initially developed in Ray, then contributed to Arrow, and then (
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/r65b2852e4cddb1af8bff06d789bf3822d67777c5dfcd481414acd3d7%40%3Cdev.arrow.apache.org%3E
> )
> > forked (?) by Ray and is kind-of abandoned in Arrow and not really
> > maintained in Arrow any more (and likely Ray version and Arrow version
> are
> > not compatible /exchangeable).
> >
> > Is this correct understanding ? Any more comments or maybe explanation
> > what is the relation between Arrow's Plasma and Ray's Plasma?
> >
> > Just to explain my interest -  I am a PMC of Apache Airflow, I am an
> > independent Open-Source contributor and advisor, and I am genuinely
> > interested in Open-source business models and rationale of stakeholders
> and
> > how this plays out with individuals and the ASF/PMC and I wanted to
> > understand the current state of Plasma :)
> >
> > J.
> >
> >
>


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