This seems like a reasonable change.  Is there any reason that we shouldnt
always append EOS?

On Tuesday, May 21, 2019, John Muehlhausen <j...@jgm.org> wrote:

> Wes,
>
> Check out reader.cpp.  It seg faults when it gets to the next
> message-that-is-not-a-message... it is a footer.  But I have no way to
> know this in reader.cpp because I'm piping the File in via stdin.
>
> In seeker.cpp I seek to the end and figure out where the footer is (this
> is a py-arrow-written file) and indeed it is at the offset where my
> "streamed File" reader bombed out.  If EOS were mandatory at this location
> it would have been fine... I would have said "oh, time for the footer!"
>
> Basically what I'm saying is that we can't assume that File won't be
> processed as a stream.  In an actual non-file stream it is either EOS or
> end-of-stream.  But with a file-as-stream there is more data and we have to
> know it isn't the stream anymore.
>
> Otherwise we've locked the File use-cases into those where the File isn't
> streamed -- i.e. is seekable.  See what I'm saying?  For reader.cpp to have
> been functional it would have had to read the entire File into a buffer
> before parsing, since it could not seek().  This could be easily avoided
> with a mandatory EOS in the File format.  Basically:
>
> <magic number "ARROW1">
> <empty padding bytes [to 8 byte boundary]>
> <STREAMING FORMAT>
> *<EOS if not in stream>*
> <FOOTER>
> <FOOTER SIZE: int32>
> <magic number "ARROW1">
>
> -John
>
> On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 4:44 PM Wes McKinney <wesmck...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> hi John,
>>
>> I'm not sure I follow. The EOS you're referring to is part of the
>> streaming format. It's designed to be readable using an InputStream
>> interface that does not support seeking at all. You can see the core
>> logic where messages are popped off the InputStream here
>>
>> https://github.com/apache/arrow/blob/6f80ea4928f0d26ca175002f2e9f51
>> 1962c8b012/cpp/src/arrow/ipc/message.cc#L281
>>
>> If the end of the byte stream is reached, or EOS (0) is encountered,
>> then the stream reader stops iteration.
>>
>> - Wes
>>
>> On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 4:34 PM John Muehlhausen <j...@jgm.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > https://arrow.apache.org/docs/format/IPC.html#file-format
>> >
>> > <EOS [optional]: int32>
>> >
>> > If this stream marker is optional in the file format, doesn't this
>> prevent
>> > someone from reading the file without being able to seek() it, e.g. if
>> it
>> > is "piped in" to a program?  Or otherwise they'll have to stream in the
>> > entire thing before they can start parsing?
>> >
>> > Any reason it can't be mandatory for a File?
>> >
>> > -John
>>
>

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