Hi,

Le 02/07/2018 à 15:58, Wes McKinney a écrit :
> * http://ivory.idyll.org/blog/2018-how-open-is-too-open.html
> * http://ivory.idyll.org/blog/2018-oss-framework-cpr.html

Very good articles, but I would stress that some of the mechanisms
proposed lack metrics in their favour.  Two particular examples that I
know about:

1)

""" I seem to recall Martin van Loewis offering to review one externally
contributed patch for every ten other patches reviewed by the submitter.
(I can’t find the link, sorry!) This imposes work requirements on
would-be contributors that obligate them to contribute substantively to
the project maintenance, before their pet feature gets implemented. """

Martin's offer was almost never taken up, although he expressed it many
times during many years.  I think there are two factors to it:

a) Cost.  As an occasional contributor, I could understand having to do
a review before contributing a patch of mine, but not having to do 5 or
more reviews for each patch I contribute.  The effort asked is much too
high, and you're probably discouraging people who are discovering the
project, even before they could get hooked on it.

b) Difficult.  It's much more difficult and intimidating to review
someone else's PR, than to propose your own changes knowing that it will
be reviewed by (you are assuming) competent people.  So this mechanism
is excluding first-time contributors, which is probably *not* what you want.

2)

""" Some projects have excellent incubators, like the Python Core
Mentorship Program, where people who are interested in applying their
effort to recruiting new contributors can do so. """

Actually, it doesn't seem to me that a significant proportion of
frequent Python contributors have gone through the core mentorship
process.  It probably got us a handful of one-time contributions.
Pointing to the Python core mentorship program as an "excellent
incubator" sounds rather far-fetched to me.

Generally speaking, there's a limit to the usefulness of hand-holding
contributors, especially if your project is rather complex (as Python
is), because the blocking point for contributors is *not* that the
development mailing-list is a bit intimidating (as was claimed by the
people who founded the Python core mentorship program).


PS : as a matter of fact, the general rate of contributions to Python
has been *decreasing* for years.

Regards

Antoine.

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