Hey Wes,

I understand there's another pointer, a definition level pointer, which is 
basically a null location marker column. Exposing it as well to pick out the 
nulls would be awesome. 

The types of interest (to me) are varchars/strings, bools and numbers, just 
basic primitive types that also exist in standard SQL, so having these two 
columns available via Python would be sweet.


Thanks,
Eli

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-------- Original Message --------
 On January 31, 2018 4:06 PM, Wes McKinney  wrote:

>hi Eli,
>
> This isn't available at the moment, but one could make the internal
> buffers in an array accessible in Python. How would you handle nulls
> in this scenario (the bytes for a null value in a primitive array can
> be any value)? How would one handle things other than numbers?
>
> - Wes
>
> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 5:14 AM, Eli h5r...@protonmail.ch wrote:
>
>>Hey Wes,
>>What I meant by "standard" is the binary representation of a specific type 
>>aggregated together.
>>The int32 column [1,2,3] would make 
>>'\x01\x00\x00\x00\x02\x00\x00\x00\x03\x00\x00\x00' for example.
>>This is already available via Python's struct.pack(), 
>>array.array().tostring() or np.array().astype().tobytes()
>>What I was wondering is whatever that specific representation is already 
>>there in Arrow's C++ mechanics somewhere, and whether one can get hold of it 
>>from Pyarrow.
>>I don't know C++ very well, but I think what I'm looking for is in buffer.h, 
>>there are pointers to types under Buffer which I think point to just that.
>>I saw that Buffer is actually accessible via pa.lib.Buffer, and that it even 
>>has a to_pybytes() method.
>>However:
>> - I'm not sure those are the bytes that I speak of
>>
>> - I'm not sure how to use Buffer to find out, keep getting core dumps when 
>> trying
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>> On January 10, 2018 7:34 PM, Wes McKinney  wrote:
>>>hi Eli,
>>>I am not aware of any standards for binary columns (or at least, I
>>> don't know what "regular" means in this context) -- part of the
>>> purpose of the Apache Arrow project is to define a columnar standard
>>> in the absence of any existing one. Most database systems define their
>>> own custom wire protocols.
>>>Do you have a link to the specification for the binary protocol for
>>> the database you are using (or some other documentation)?
>>>Thanks,
>>> Wes
>>>On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 12:47 AM, Eli h5r...@protonmail.ch wrote:
>>>>Hey Wes,
>>>> The database in question accepts columnar chunks of "regular" binary data 
>>>> over the network, one of the sources of which is parquet.
>>>> Thus, data only comes out of parquet on my side, and I was wondering how 
>>>> to get it out as "regular" binary columns. Something like tobytes() for an 
>>>> Arrow Column, or maybe read_asbytes() for pa itself. The purpose is to get 
>>>> to standard binary columns as fast as possible.
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Eli
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>>>>>-------- Original Message --------
>>>>> Subject: Re: How to get "standard" binary columns out of a pyarrow table
>>>>> Local Time: January 10, 2018 5:32 AM
>>>>> UTC Time: January 10, 2018 3:32 AM
>>>>> From: wesmck...@gmail.com
>>>>> To: dev@arrow.apache.org, Eli h5r...@protonmail.ch
>>>>> hi Eli,
>>>>> I'm wondering what kind of API you would want, if the perfect one
>>>>> existed. If I understand correctly, you are embedding objects in a
>>>>> BYTE_ARRAY column in Parquet, and need to do some post-processing as
>>>>> the data goes in / comes out of Parquet?
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Wes
>>>>> On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 8:37 AM, Eli h5r...@protonmail.ch wrote:
>>>>>>Hi,
>>>>>> I'm looking to send "regular" columnar binary data to a database, the 
>>>>>> kind that gets created by struct.pack, array.array, numpy.tobytes or 
>>>>>> str.encode.
>>>>>> The origin is parquet files, which I'm reading ever so comfortably via 
>>>>>> PyArrow.
>>>>>> I do however need to deserialize to Python objcets, currently via 
>>>>>> to_pandas(), then re-serialize the columns with one of the above.
>>>>>> I was wondering whether there was a better way to go about it, one which 
>>>>>> would be most fast end effective.
>>>>>> Ideally I'd like to go through Python, but I can do C or even some C++ 
>>>>>> if necessary.
>>>>>> I posted the question on stackoverflow, and was asked to post here. 
>>>>>> Appreciate any feedback!
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Eli
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>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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