Siddharth,

Regarding rename:
Yes this can be done later.

Tests:
I agree having code like https://github.com/apache/
arrow/pull/1164/files#diff-0876c9a0005d1dbaea321ea8d39d79ae is hard to
maintain even temporarily. I am not sure what's the best way to resolve
test failure wrt removing of the accessor/mutator from the vectors. Maybe
we can have change the template the create non-accessor/mutator
getter/setters and also remove acessor/mutator in the test for it to pass?
What do you think is the easiest?

Reader/Writer:
Yes we can address this later.

Apologies if I seem to add more work for merging https://github.com/
apache/arrow/pull/1164, that's not my intention, I think the PR looks good -
just want to bring up some major design decisions so people can comment and
discuss.

Li




On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 2:37 PM, Siddharth Teotia <siddha...@dremio.com>
wrote:

> I am not quite sure of the need to rename the vectors. Why do we need to
> rename? This would first require us to remove all the vectors generated by
> FixedValueVectors.java as they are non-nullable scalar vectors. Removing
> non-nullable vectors is one of the goals, but it can be done once the new
> infrastructure is properly setup?
>
> In order to merge the existing patch, I first need to address some (10-15)
> failures -- few of them are correctness issues w.r.t TestVectorUnloadLoad,
> TestArrowFile and rest all are related to getMutator(), getAccessor()
> throwing UnsupportedOperationException. This is why I was saying earlier
> that I will end up doing a lot of rework by writing redundant code where
> (if vector instanceof NullableInt or vector instanceof NullableVarChar) we
> don't use the mutator/accessor and for other vectors we use it for the
> current patch. These if conditions are getting complicated with ugly type
> casting in some parts of the code --
> https://github.com/apache/arrow/pull/1164/files#diff-
> 0876c9a0005d1dbaea321ea8d39d79ae
>
> So I thought we can probably implement other vectors (remaining scalars,
> map and list) where no vector has mutator/accessor and then for every
> ValueVector, we can remove all calls to getMutator(), getAccessor() as
> opposed to doing them selectively ---
> https://github.com/apache/arrow/pull/1164/files#diff-
> e9273a7b3b35ff7f40f101dc2cf95242
>
> I will try to address these failures by EOD and see if this patch can be
> merged first.
>
> Regarding readers and writers, can we address them subsequently?
>
> On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 11:03 AM, Li Jin <ice.xell...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Siddharth,
> >
> > Thanks for the update. I think it's fine to move forward with more
> vectors,
> > but in the mean time, I think we should also prioritize to merge
> > https://github.com/apache/arrow/pull/1164, here are a few comments needs
> > to
> > be addressed.
> >
> > (1) Backward-compatibility:
> > I think there is no way to maintain backward compability as the new
> vector
> > classes will be renamed, but want to confirm we are OK with this
> decision.
> > We also think the disruption on the Spark side are OK as Spark's use case
> > is simple and Bryan and I can take care of the code change.
> >
> > (2) Reader/writer classes:
> > How does the reader/writer classes interact with the new and legacy
> vector
> > classes:
> >
> > Discussion: https://github.com/apache/arrow/pull/1164#discussion_
> > r144074264
> >
> > My thoughts are:
> > (1) ArrowReader classes should only return new vector classes
> > (2) ArrowWriter classes should only work with new vector classes
> > (3) To read/write legacy vectors, we can use adapters to turn legacy
> > vectors to new vectors (zero-copy, as the underlying buffers should be
> > transferred directly)
> >
> > Jacques also has a few comments, I don't know if they have been
> addressed.
> >
> > For other comments, I think we can add TODO and do it later. I think we
> can
> > merge this PR if we address (1) (2) above.
> >
> > Comments?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 12:36 PM, Siddharth Teotia <siddha...@dremio.com
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > The patch that I have put up https://github.com/apache/arrow/pull/1198
> > > seems to be in a reasonable state. We are now working off a different
> > > branch "java vector refactor".
> > >
> > > Now that we have the basic structure,  in order to make quick forward
> > > progress, I would like to go ahead and do for other types (FLOAT,
> BIGINT
> > > etc), list, map and create their legacy
> > > counter parts -- doing them in subsequent patches is requiring me to
> > write
> > > some duplicate code and redundant if conditions in code that expects
> all
> > > the vectors to have mutator/accessor.
> > >
> > > Is that fine? Just wanted to check with people and ensure there aren't
> > any
> > > major concerns.
> > >
> > > The feedback on the PR (original one for master
> > > https://github.com/apache/arrow/pull/1164) has been really good --
> some
> > of
> > > the comments are yet to be addressed and we jointly decided to address
> > few
> > > things (like Minor Type etc) after the refactoring has been done.
> > >
> > > On the testing front, as far as the correctness is concerned, I have
> two
> > > failures in TestArrowFile and TestValueVector. I have added some more
> > tests
> > > too.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 2:18 PM, Siddharth Teotia <
> siddha...@dremio.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Yes, that is the intention. Good that we all are on the same page. I
> > will
> > > > move the PR https://github.com/apache/arrow/pull/1164 to new branch.
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 11:20 AM, Li Jin <ice.xell...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> To make clear, I think it's fine to have Legacy Vectors in 0.8 as a
> > > >> deprecated API.
> > > >>
> > > >> On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 2:19 PM, Li Jin <ice.xell...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > Siddharth,
> > > >> >
> > > >> > For working off a branch, Wes has created
> > https://github.com/apache/
> > > >> > arrow/tree/java-vector-refactor that we can submit PR to.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > For Legacy vectors, I think it's fine because it's really just a
> > > >> migration
> > > >> > path to help Dremio to migrate to the new vectors. I don't think
> > other
> > > >> > users, i.e., Spark will use the Legacy vector class. Bryan and I
> > will
> > > >> just
> > > >> > migrate Spark to new vectors directly because Spark's use of Arrow
> > is
> > > >> very
> > > >> > simple.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 2:08 PM, Siddharth Teotia <
> > > siddha...@dremio.com
> > > >> >
> > > >> > wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> >> Thanks Bryan and Li.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Yes, the goal is to get this (and the subsequent patches) merged
> to
> > > the
> > > >> >> new
> > > >> >> branch. Once it is stabilized from different aspects, we can move
> > to
> > > >> >> master. I am not sure of the exact mechanics when we work off a
> > > >> different
> > > >> >> project branch and not master.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Does that sound good?
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Regarding compatibility, are we suggesting that let's not create
> > > Legacy
> > > >> >> Nullable vectors at all? The initial thoughts were to generate
> > Legacy
> > > >> >> vectors from NullableValueVectors template and these vectors are
> > > >> >> mutator/accessor based (in today's world). Internally each
> > operation
> > > >> will
> > > >> >> be delegated to new vectors (non code generated).
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 10:58 AM, Bryan Cutler <
> cutl...@gmail.com>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> > Thanks for the update Siddharth.  From the Spark side of this,
> I
> > > >> >> definitely
> > > >> >> > want to try to upgrade to the latest Arrow before the Spark 2.3
> > > >> release
> > > >> >> but
> > > >> >> > if it the refactor is too disruptive then others might get
> > > squeamish
> > > >> >> about
> > > >> >> > upgrading.  On the other hand, I don't think we should hold
> back
> > on
> > > >> >> > refactoring for compatibility sake and the way it's looking now
> > > >> trying
> > > >> >> to
> > > >> >> > be backwards-compatible will be too much of a pain.  I will try
> > to
> > > >> >> figure
> > > >> >> > out the timeline for Spark 2.3 and what the feeling is for
> > > upgrading
> > > >> >> > Arrow.  Can we hold off on merging this to master for now and
> > just
> > > >> work
> > > >> >> out
> > > >> >> > of the separate branch until we can get a better feeling for
> the
> > > >> impact?
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > Bryan
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 8:19 AM, Li Jin <ice.xell...@gmail.com
> >
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > > Hi Siddharth,
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > > Thanks for the update. This looks good.
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > > A few thoughts:
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > > *Compatibility:*
> > > >> >> > > It sounds like we will introduce some back-compatibility with
> > the
> > > >> new
> > > >> >> > > Vector class. At this point I think our main Java users
> should
> > be
> > > >> >> Spark
> > > >> >> > and
> > > >> >> > > Dremio, is this right?
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > >    - For Spark:
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > > It seems fine since Spark uses just the basic functionality
> of
> > > >> Vector
> > > >> >> > > classes and the existing code should work with the new Vector
> > > >> classes,
> > > >> >> > > maybe even without any code change on the Spark side.
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > >    - For Dremio:
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > > Sounds like you are already taking care of this by
> introducing
> > > the
> > > >> >> > > LegacyVector classes.
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > > *Testing:*
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > >    - Spark Integration Tests:
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > > Bryan and I can help with integration test with Spark. I
> think
> > > the
> > > >> >> target
> > > >> >> > > timeline for Spark 2.3 release is some time in mid Nov (Bryan
> > > >> please
> > > >> >> > > correct me if I am wrong).
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > > I will take a look at the PR today.
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > > On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 4:29 PM, Siddharth Teotia <
> > > >> >> siddha...@dremio.com>
> > > >> >> > > wrote:
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > > > Hi All,
> > > >> >> > > >
> > > >> >> > > > I wanted to update everyone on state of this mini-project:
> > > >> >> > > >
> > > >> >> > > >
> > > >> >> > > >    - Requirements document and initial design proposal were
> > > sent
> > > >> >> out to
> > > >> >> > > the
> > > >> >> > > >    community for review and we have received some good
> > > feedback.
> > > >> All
> > > >> >> > > > required
> > > >> >> > > >    docs are attached with corresponding JIRAs.
> > > >> >> > > >
> > > >> >> > > >
> > > >> >> > > >    - The initial prototype is in a reasonable state
> > > >> (code-complete).
> > > >> >> > You
> > > >> >> > > >    can see the PR here - https://github.com/apache/arro
> > > >> w/pull/1164
> > > >> >> > > >
> > > >> >> > > >
> > > >> >> > > >    - The prototype has code changes for the new hierarchy,
> > > >> abstract
> > > >> >> > > >    interfaces for fixed width and variable width vectors
> and
> > > >> >> concrete
> > > >> >> > > >    implementation of NullableIntVector and
> > > NullableVarCharVector.
> > > >> >> > > >
> > > >> >> > > >
> > > >> >> > > > Plan for testing and integrating into existing
> > infrastructure:
> > > >> >> > > >
> > > >> >> > > >
> > > >> >> > > >    - My initial thoughts are that this particular patch
> will
> > > >> >> require a
> > > >> >> > > lot
> > > >> >> > > >    of testing, reviews etc since the foundation of rest of
> > the
> > > >> >> > > > implementation
> > > >> >> > > >    more or less depends on how the APIs are flushed out
> here.
> > > >> >> > > >
> > > >> >> > > >
> > > >> >> > > >    - So the goal is to get this properly tested and merged
> > into
> > > >> >> master
> > > >> >> > > >    first.
> > > >> >> > > >
> > > >> >> > > >
> > > >> >> > > >    - The idea is to slowly deprecate and remove the
> existing
> > > >> >> vectors in
> > > >> >> > > >    stages. In this patch itself, we change the existing
> > > >> >> > > >    NullableValueVectors.java template to generate
> > > >> >> > LegacyNullableIntVector
> > > >> >> > > > and
> > > >> >> > > >    LegacyNullableVarCharVector. Each operation on these
> > vectors
> > > >> will
> > > >> >> > > > delegate
> > > >> >> > > >    to the corresponding NullableIntVector and
> > > >> NullableVarCharVector
> > > >> >> > that
> > > >> >> > > > are
> > > >> >> > > >    newly implemented.
> > > >> >> > > >
> > > >> >> > > >
> > > >> >> > > >    - This achieves two goals w.r.t testing:
> > > >> >> > > >
> > > >> >> > > >
> > > >> >> > > >    - Firstly, our existing JAVA unit tests will
> automatically
> > > >> >> exercise
> > > >> >> > > the
> > > >> >> > > >       newly written code and its APIs (API names have not
> > > >> changed)
> > > >> >> for
> > > >> >> > > >       NullableInt and NullableVarChar vectors.
> > > >> >> > > >
> > > >> >> > > >
> > > >> >> > > >    - Secondly, let's say we rebase Dremio on top of Arrow
> > > master
> > > >> and
> > > >> >> > > >       replace all references to NullableIntVector and
> > > >> >> > > > NullableVarCharVector with
> > > >> >> > > >       their Legacy counterparts, things should still work.
> > > >> >> > > >
> > > >> >> > > >
> > > >> >> > > >    - After this patch gets merged, we can do the following
> > work
> > > >> in
> > > >> >> > > multiple
> > > >> >> > > >    patches:
> > > >> >> > > >       - Write concrete implementations for rest of the
> > nullable
> > > >> >> types
> > > >> >> > --
> > > >> >> > > >       FLOAT4, FLOAT8, BIGINT, VARBINARY etc
> > > >> >> > > >
> > > >> >> > > >
> > > >> >> > > >    - Write additional tests (definitely needed but the
> first
> > > goal
> > > >> >> is to
> > > >> >> > > >       make sure existing tests are not broken).
> > > >> >> > > >
> > > >> >> > > >
> > > >> >> > > >    - Ensure NullableValueVectors template generates Legacy
> > > >> vectors
> > > >> >> and
> > > >> >> > > each
> > > >> >> > > >       operation is merely a delegation to the API in new
> > > >> >> > implementation.
> > > >> >> > > >
> > > >> >> > > >
> > > >> >> > > >    - In the next Arrow release, remove all Legacy vectors
> and
> > > >> >> > > >       NullableValueVectors template since we will have the
> > > >> >> > implementation
> > > >> >> > > > for
> > > >> >> > > >       each type that passes existing tests.
> > > >> >> > > >
> > > >> >> > > >
> > > >> >> > > >    - I am currently inspecting the newly written code and
> > > making
> > > >> >> > changes
> > > >> >> > > to
> > > >> >> > > >       the template to generate Legacy vector types for
> > Nullable
> > > >> Int
> > > >> >> > > > and Nullable
> > > >> >> > > >       VarChar and delegating the operations. The changes
> > should
> > > >> be
> > > >> >> > > > available in
> > > >> >> > > >       the PR in a couple of hours.
> > > >> >> > > >
> > > >> >> > > >
> > > >> >> > > > I am wondering if there are any other ideas around testing,
> > > >> merging
> > > >> >> > etc.
> > > >> >> > > > Please feel free to reply here or comment on the PR.
> > > >> >> > > >
> > > >> >> > > > I would appreciate if people can take time to review the
> code
> > > in
> > > >> PR
> > > >> >> --
> > > >> >> > > > especially the abstract classes BaseNullableFixedWidth and
> > > >> >> > > > BaseNullableVariableWidth. Writing concrete implementations
> > for
> > > >> >> other
> > > >> >> > > types
> > > >> >> > > > will be much less hassle if these abstract classes have
> > proper
> > > >> code.
> > > >> >> > > >
> > > >> >> > > > Thanks,
> > > >> >> > > > Siddharth
> > > >> >> > > >
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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