A group of Quilt users and team members interested in R is planning a short call to get the ball rolling on R bindings for Arrow (and Quilt) tomorrow at 4PM Pacific. We'd love to have anyone who's interested from this list join us in the hangout: https://hangouts.google.com/hangouts/_/quiltdata.io/aneesh?authuser=1
Thanks, Kevin ---- Kevin Moore CEO, Quilt Data, Inc. ke...@quiltdata.io | LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinemoore/> (415) 497-7895 Manage Data like Code quiltdata.com On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 7:58 AM, Wes McKinney <wesmck...@gmail.com> wrote: > + Hadley > > On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 2:04 PM, Bryan Cutler <cutl...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Thanks Clark. I know that SparkR would benefit a lot from Arrow bindings > > and many people would like to see that, but to my knowledge no one has > > started working on this yet. Please keep us updated with what you find! > > > > Bryan > > > > On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 9:15 AM, Clark Fitzgerald <clarkfi...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > >> Regarding the R Consortium, the Distributed Computing Working Group led > by > >> Michael Lawrence would be interested in this. It would be nice to go to > >> them with some working examples and use cases. > >> > >> Next week I will start looking into R / Arrow bindings. A couple other > >> people at the UC Davis Data Science Initiative have expressed interest > as > >> well. I'll post updates here. > >> > >> On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 5:01 PM, Dean Chen <d...@dv01.co> wrote: > >> > >> > Sounds good, will get a thread going there. > >> > > >> > On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 6:02 PM Wes McKinney <wesmck...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > > >> > > Especially with Arrow support landing in Spark (SPARK-13534), it > would > >> > > be helpful to combine efforts between Python and R on this front. I > >> > > also have a long list of improvements to the Feather format that > will > >> > > be substantially simpler once library(feather) is depending on the > >> > > main Arrow libraries. > >> > > > >> > > I suggest you reach out to members of the R community directly on > >> > > public forums about development help / advice and soliciting > >> > > collaboration. There are other R venues where you can describe your > >> > > use cases, like the R Consortium and its subcommittees: > >> > > https://www.r-consortium.org/. I would go directly to the mailing > >> > > lists and see if there is anyone who would like to get involved. > It's > >> > > more likely that you'll get attention on this problem in the R > mailing > >> > > lists than on the Arrow mailing list due to the chicken-and-egg > >> > > aspect. > >> > > > >> > > As a side note, my opinion is that shared storage, memory formats, > and > >> > > computing libraries (e.g. native C++ libraries targeting Arrow > memory) > >> > > are going to be more and more important to the R / Python / Julia > >> > > communities (and beyond -- Kou has been developing Arrow interfaces > >> > > for Ruby, which has not traditionally had a large data science > >> > > community) as time passes. I would like to personally do more on > the R > >> > > side but I simply don't have the bandwidth to take responsibility > for > >> > > another major component, especially not in an unfamiliar software > >> > > development stack. > >> > > > >> > > Let me know how I can help, and if there are R mailing list > >> > > discussions where we (the Arrow developers) can chime in please > alert > >> > > us to them here. > >> > > > >> > > - Wes > >> > > > >> > > On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 5:29 PM, Dean Chen <d...@dv01.co> wrote: > >> > > > I also sent a note about it to the dev list a month ago. Still > have a > >> > > huge > >> > > > internal need and interested in helping push this along where we > can. > >> > > > Unfortunately, our team is more focused around Spark and doesn't > have > >> > > much > >> > > > experience working with the R community. > >> > > > > >> > > > On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 1:44 PM Clark Fitzgerald < > >> clarkfi...@gmail.com > >> > > > >> > > > wrote: > >> > > > > >> > > >> Hello all, > >> > > >> > >> > > >> I saw the notes come through from today's call: > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > * R Arrow Bindings? > >> > > >> > - Find use cases within the R community, contributors needed > >> > > >> > - R Feather bindings a useful starting point > >> > > >> > >> > > >> This year I've been working on parallel R on datasets in the > 100+ GB > >> > > range, > >> > > >> and have found that loading and saving data from text files is a > >> real > >> > > >> bottleneck. Another consideration is breaking the data up into > >> chunks > >> > > for > >> > > >> parallel processing while maintaining metadata and overall > >> structure. > >> > So > >> > > >> I've been watching Parquet and Arrow. > >> > > >> > >> > > >> Specifically here are two use cases in R where Arrow / Parquet > could > >> > be > >> > > >> helpful: > >> > > >> > >> > > >> - Splitting up a large data set into pieces which fit > comfortably in > >> > > memory > >> > > >> then applying normal R functions to each piece. Basically GROUP > BY. > >> > > >> - Matloff's Software Alchemy, statistical averaging based on > >> > independent > >> > > >> chunks of data. This requires rows to be randomly assigned to > >> chunks. > >> > > >> > >> > > >> Another option besides starting from the R Feather bindings is to > >> > start > >> > > >> with an automatically generated set of bindings: > >> > > >> https://github.com/duncantl/RCodeGen > >> > > >> > >> > > >> Best, > >> > > >> Clark Fitzgerald > >> > > >> > >> > > > -- > >> > > > VP of Engineering - dv01, Featured in Forbes Fintech 50 For 2016 > >> > > > <http://www.forbes.com/fintech/2016/#310668d56680> > >> > > > 915 Broadway | Suite 502 | New York, NY 10010 > >> > > > (646)-838-2310 <(646)%20838-2310> > >> > > > d...@dv01.co | www.dv01.co > >> > > > >> > -- > >> > VP of Engineering - dv01, Featured in Forbes Fintech 50 For 2016 > >> > <http://www.forbes.com/fintech/2016/#310668d56680> > >> > 915 Broadway | Suite 502 | New York, NY 10010 > >> > (646)-838-2310 > >> > d...@dv01.co | www.dv01.co > >> > > >> >