ok, I agree that the data is persisted in etcd, which can indeed avoid a lot of unnecessary trouble.
YuanSheng Wang <[email protected]> 于2020年8月20日周四 下午11:22写道： > On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 5:33 PM Ming Wen <[email protected]> wrote: > > > That will be great if we can remove RDS. > > > > yes, I love this way too. > > > > > > Thanks, > > Ming Wen, Apache APISIX & Apache SkyWalking > > Twitter: _WenMing > > > > > > vincixu <[email protected]> 于2020年8月20日周四 下午4:30写道： > > > > > Relational database is not the only way.k8s implement all > features(RBAC, > > > ABAC, cascade) we need but no relational databases. > > > Keep configuration in two places, it will bring a hard problem: how to > > > keep consistency.A problem that engineers have struggled for many years > > but > > > there has been no easy solution until now,I think it’s not worth > > > introducing such a problem to implement the mentioned features. > > > ( I also have never seen a project using etcd and relational storage at > > the > > > same time to store the same data, ) > > > > > > wei jin <[email protected]> 于2020年8月20日周四 下午4:04写道： > > > > > > > We need a relational database to do some function extensions to meet > > some > > > > practical needs, such as authority management. But we also hope to > keep > > > > apisix sufficiently convergent and focus on a high-performance > gateway. > > > > APISIX should not be affected by external function extensions. > > > > > > > > vincixu <[email protected]> 于2020年8月20日周四 下午3:53写道： > > > > > > > > > I don't think a lot of routes is a good practice. > > > > > But we can discuss how many routes APISIX plans to support. There > is > > no > > > > > pressure on the front-end sorting of records less than 50,000 > > > records(Our > > > > > team way). > > > > > If we plan to support large rotes query, paging and so on, we can > > load > > > > the > > > > > data into memory, and then simulate query and paging in the backend > > > > instead > > > > > of depend on another storage (the k8s apiserver way), > > > > > if we really need a storage that is easy to query, why not directly > > use > > > > it > > > > > as the configuration library of APISIX? Just like tyk did( using > > mongo > > > as > > > > > configuration storage). > > > > > It is very dangerous and inelegant to keep duplicate configuration > > even > > > > in > > > > > different storage media. > > > > > > > > > > YuanSheng Wang <[email protected]> 于2020年8月20日周四 下午12:30写道： > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 11:42 AM vincixu <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > support search and paging, etcd cannot support such > features. > > > > > > > back-end search and paging is unnecessary, we can implement it > in > > > the > > > > > > > front-end, because users will not have too many configurations. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > because users will not have too many configurations > > > > > > > > > > > > Apache APISIX can support a large number of routes, which is an > > > > important > > > > > > feature for our users. > > > > > > > > > > > > Another case: > > > > > > > > > > > > the `service` or `upstream` object can be bound in `route`, when > we > > > > need > > > > > to > > > > > > delete the `service` > > > > > > or `upstream` object, we need to confirm there is no route using > > it. > > > if > > > > > we > > > > > > are using RDS, its easy for > > > > > > this case. > > > > > > > > > > > > If we only use etcd, it is hard to support this case too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > YuanSheng Wang <[email protected]> 于2020年8月20日周四 上午11:29写道： > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 10:57 AM vincixu <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I haven't followed APISIX Dashboard until I saw this email. > > > > > > > > > In my opinion, APISIX Dashboard should not rely on storage > > > other > > > > > than > > > > > > > > ETCD > > > > > > > > > or even ManagerAPI, which will increase the overall > > complexity. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > `manager api` relies on relational databases, because some > data > > > > needs > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > support search and paging, etcd cannot support such features. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For the `route.name` field, it is necessary to ensure that > it > > is > > > > > > unique > > > > > > > > among all routes, which cannot be implemented in etcd. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is really not a good idea. Dashboard should be kept > > simple > > > > and > > > > > > > easy > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > deploy, not another huge application. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Justin Mclean <[email protected]> 于2020年8月20日周四 > > > > 上午10:05写道： > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HI, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Last I looked mysql was also GPL which is not compatible > > with > > > > the > > > > > > > > Apache > > > > > > > > > > License. I assume this is an optional dependancy? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > Justin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *MembPhis* > > > > > > > > My GitHub: https://github.com/membphis > > > > > > > > Apache APISIX: https://github.com/apache/incubator-apisix > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > *MembPhis* > > > > > > My GitHub: https://github.com/membphis > > > > > > Apache APISIX: https://github.com/apache/incubator-apisix > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > *MembPhis* > My GitHub: https://github.com/membphis > Apache APISIX: https://github.com/apache/incubator-apisix >
