Stephen & Jaikiran, Thanks for your emails. I don't think anyone would be offended by your comments. They are well founded.
I do think we need fresh blood for the Ivy sub-projects. Conor On 24 August 2015 at 04:10, Stephen Haberman <stephen.haber...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Jaikiran, > > FWIW I've made similar complaints about inactivity on Ivy, and suggested > awhile ago that Ivy needs a new group of committers/contributors who are > willing/able to put the time into the project. > > But nothing has happened. > > Which I found somewhat ironic, because I watched Apache Spark go through > the incubation process, and Spark already had an extremely healthy open > source community. And yet they were still occasionally lectured about "the > Apache Way" of nurturing a healthy community/project. > > Which is fine, totally understood the Apache people were just trying to > help Spark's long-term success; but then when I look at projects like Ivy, > which is extremely widely used (embedded in Gradle, sbt, pants, used > standalone via Ant, etc.), but the developer community is basically dead, > well, it makes me wonder where the "Apache Way" zealots are and what went > wrong. > > (Ant has a huge user base, but I'd actually assert more new projects are > using Ivy, than are using Ant, *but* it's also very likely new project > usage of Ivy is primarily via being embedded in Gradle/sbt/etc., and not > standalone.) > > To me there is no harm in admitting when contributors who have done a great > job over the years, are just busy with new things, and some fresh blood is > needed. > > Totally understood you can't just grant commit rights to whoever submits a > pull request. But it seems like some sort of purposeful effort to steward > new committers/loosen the reins a bit would be worthwhile for the long term > health of the project. > > Also, I don't mean to offend anyone; we use Ivy extensively at work, and it > works great. I don't think anyone involved in Ant/Ivy is doing a "bad job", > I think it's just a matter of recognizing the reality of the community's > state, and dispassionately deciding what can be done about it. > > - Stephen > > > On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 11:26 AM, Jaikiran Pai <jai.forums2...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> The past few weeks I've been trying to contribute by fixing some issues >> that have been noted in JIRA. I've opened a pull request with a fix a while >> back[1] and also have asked a few questions about some other issues that I >> am thinking to work on. However, there has been no response, neither to the >> pull request nor to the question. >> >> Is there any public roadmap, goals and future plans for the Ivy project? I >> would like to continue contributing, but if there's no real plans to >> continue development in the project, then I would just end up wasting my >> time. >> >> [1] https://github.com/apache/ant-ivy/pull/7 >> >> -Jaikiran >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@ant.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@ant.apache.org >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@ant.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@ant.apache.org
