Le 9 févr. 08 à 08:56, Xavier Hanin a écrit :
On Feb 8, 2008 11:01 PM, Nicolas Lalevée <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote:
Le 8 févr. 08 à 21:29, Adrian Sandor a écrit :
Hi, IMHO it would be much better to build a clean, well-organized
and reliable ivy repository instead of supporting that maven
garbage. By the way, why was IvyRep abandoned? I think that would be
the best solution, to have an official ivy rep., ideally containing
artifacts too.
I have nothing against [better] supporting maven reps for those who
prefer it, but I don't see why it should have a higher priority than
supporting an ivy rep.
Anyway, I've never used maven (and from what I read about it, I
avoided a world of suffering), and during the few minutes I spent
with the ibiblio resolver before ditching it, I found these main
problems:
- bad org names
- very old versions for some modules
- source and javadoc artifacts not supported (except by IvyDE)
Therefore the only solution was to manually build an "enterprise
repository" from scratch.
Well, to build a "entreprise repository", you will need some
"entreprise maintainers". And looking at the number of artifacts
available on ibiblio, for me it is a kind of magic to have Ivy
support
maven repositories. And we have to admit that maven is more popular
than Ivy, so people will still continue to publish maven artifacts,
even non maven-built projects as Lucene.
Agreed, this is a big advantage of leveraging maven 2 repo.
And on the contrary, we could imagine to have some ivy.xml just next
to the pom.xml on the maven repositories, so we could have a IvyRep2
with not that much effort from the developer (non necessarily ivy
ones) community.
Yes, but even maintaining ivy files require a strong community if we
want to
have good quality metadata. That's what we tried with Ivyrep, while
Ivy was
being sponsored by Jayasoft. But it was just too much work compared
to the
result on investment. I still think that implementing a good maven 2
compatibility is less work than trying to build our own clean
repository,
and it helps users to migrate from maven 2 too. So I still think
having a
good maven 2 compatibility is mandatory for Ivy 2 final. Once we'll
have a
large user community or some sponsorship, we will probably
reconsider the
case of public official Ivy repository.
Yes, I totally agree, I was just considering adding the possibility to
the maven2 resolver to also try to look for an ivy.xml just next to
the pom.xml (I haven't looked to the technical consequences though).
Then the maven2 community could also be an Ivy community. So the
Ivyrep Adrian is looking for could be nothing more than the ibiblio one.
Nicolas
This could be avoided if an IvyRep was maintained (at least I could
do "install").
Just a new user's opinion :)
Adrian
----- Original Message ----
From: Xavier Hanin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Ant Developers List <dev@ant.apache.org>
Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2008 2:44:15 AM
Subject: Add maven2 resolver?
Hi,
Now
that
Ivy
is
using
maven
2
repository
as
default
public
repository,
and
that
we
see
many
people
trying
to
leverage
maven
2
repositories,
I'm
wondering
if
we
shouldn't
introduce
a
maven2
resolver.
This
resolver
would
basically
be
the
equivalent
of
ibiblio
resolver
with
m2compatible
set
to
true.
The
advantage
is
a
better
name,
and
we
can
make
also
other
improvements.
For
instance,
we
could
set
checkConsistency
to
false
on
this
resolver,
since
pretty
often
people
complain
about
inconsitencies
in
maven2
repo
(see
for
instance
last
comments
on
[1]).
We
may
also
set
the
changingPattern
to
make
SNAPSHOT
dependencies
work
(more
than
that
needs
to
be
done,
this
should
be
addressed
in
IVY-501).
We
may
even
try
to
make
this
resolver
leverage
maven2
cache,
for
people
who
work
with
both
Ivy
and
maven
2
on
the
same
machine.
WDYT?
Xavier
[1]
http://tapestryjava.blogspot.com/2007/11/maven-wont-get-fooled-again.html
--
Xavier
Hanin
-
Independent
Java
Consultant
http://xhab.blogspot.com/
http://ant.apache.org/ivy/
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