Jesse Glick wrote:
Stefan Bodewig wrote:
Sometimes we build new features that are useful enough to apply the
right away in Ant's own build file.
Obviously. But it seems to me that the convenience of the many users of
Ant (sources) outstrips the convenience of the few Ant developers. For
example, it is impossible to develop the Ant trunk in NetBeans using the
bundled Ant 1.6.5 unless you write a wrapper script which execs
bootstrap.sh, which is unpleasant. Similarly you could not use a bundled
Ant binary on Linux to run ant/build.xml targets (or use Bash
completions...).
Ant doesnt build under an IDE for me anyway, because IDEA doesnt let me
exclude specific classes, and all those stuff in optional that dont get
build causes problems.
I guess your goal is making it build easily in netbeans. I can see why
that would appeal :)
To Jan: I meant only keeping compatibility with the previous official
Ant release, in this case 1.6.5.
To Kev: surely most Ant committers work on at least one other Ant-based
project where improvements can be seen? Or does the Apache Foundation
pay your rent? :-)
My main work problem is having to stay with ant1.6 for nearly everything
I do; only one project has been on ant1.7alpha for months, because we
needed <schemavalidate>. It hurts when I have to write tasks that work
with ant1.6 as well as 1.7, because many of the fixes I've made to ant I
still have to work around in my own code.
Just wondering why an Ant release is expected to be used by many
thousands of Java programmers for every purpose you can think of, yet
it's not good enough for Ant itself which is a pretty small project. I
don't feel strongly about it though.
Its more that we make improvements to the build process, such as adding
a flag to say how to act with empty jars. How can we deny ourselves the
benefits of the new release?
Now, a bootstrap.xml that does what bootstrap.bat/.sh does and works
with ant1.6,. that would be viable...
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