On Tue, 13 Sep 2005, Matt Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> :) Jose Alberto, it seems that you and I have each
> contradicted ourselves during this discussion.

Me too.

> On issue (1) above, regarding collisions,

I think Steve's argument about IDEs putting stuff into the CLASSPATH
is an important one as well.  It may make a -antlib switch for Ant
users in IDEs difficult to do.  And it may add tasks to the default
namespace that users never wanted to see there if we enabled
autoloading by default.  So it is a good case against autoloading by
default.  And a good case where the user doesn't always know what she
is doing.

> If we can satisfy both cases, so much the better, but
> if not surely we must all see that we should err on
> the side of caution (assume the user does NOT know
> everything)?

Note that with -antlib the user is in control and explicitly says
which antlibs to load into the default namespace, so we could assume
more knowledge.

Stefan

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