Hi all,

I'm preparing a talk for the developers here in Vietnam about how to use Ant to build software (mainly Java, but you know there's the .net tasks too). I have the main body of the presentation completed, but I wanted to include some of the more esoteric things you can do with Ant (not the videogame!). I noticed on the Manning web-site that Steve mentioned that he has slides available showing imports, macrodefs etc, these would be incerdibly hadny if he still has them (nudge, nudge, wink, wink).

I cover:
- Ant versus Make
- Ant instead of IDE compilation
- Continuous Integration (CruiseControl)
- Common tasks (clean, compile, jar etc)
- Server-side stuff (ftp, deploy etc)

Anything else I should include for first-timers? My aim is to help the developers realise that although it is possible to work as a team with each person compiling in their own ide, that Ant simplifies things and allows them to re-use the build script on other projects etc. I've got another talk on unit testing coming up (I've been here nearly 10 months and I've only seen 1 unit test and there was nothing tested in it). Needless to say, the working practices are similar to what I'd expect in the 80's (SourceSafe as version control, everyone locks files, Waterfall as the process, massive investment in design up front, testing is done by teams of bored people etc etc).

Kev

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