On Tue, 04 Nov 2003, Steve Loughran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here is the offending page from Brent's book.
I stumbled over it yesterday[1] - the snippet you post - here <http://www.dotnetguru.org/articles/pdc2003/pdc2003v2.htm>. As I don't speak french I've been unable to understand the context - I was planing to ask the author of that article to translate it for me and then answer it as well. Let me add to your comments. > 1. Ant does not provide built-in target dependency analysis -a > requirement for a scalable build system <http://stefanbodewig.blogger.de/stories/10575/> And your case where name mangling is more difficult than the current engine knows is a good point as well. We have a similar case in <rmic>, where the Weblogic compiler adapter produces a different result from Sun's. And then there is the case of dependencies between classes. If superclass and subclass end up in different assemblies and you change the superclass, the naive target dependency analysis will not recompile the subclass. And people will never think of doing something like the <depend> task as this is done by MSBuild. > 3. Ant does not have a normalized concept of task inputs and > outputs; a necessity for a build system to support intra-task > communication. We do have references, we just don't use them as much as we could <http://stefanbodewig.blogger.de/stories/10636/>. I'm trying to get my thoughts on this into a better shape and will have a proposal for the 1.7 timeframe. > 4. Unlike Ant, MSbuild is a secure build engine. MSBuild introduces > the notion of partially trusted builds, project level sandboxing and > task level sandboxing. I couldn't find anything about this in the public docs about MSBuild. > 5. MSbuild has a richer extensibility model than ant. I was laughing out loud on reading this. > 6. Ant does not have the ability to import (macro insert) parts of > the project file It is fair to say that this is true for all released versions of Ant (so let's get 1.6 out of door quickly ;-). And only if you deny entities, of course. > What are we going to do now. I am feeling ruthless. Wait until it apperas in MSDN to address it? Address it right now? Judging from my blog's referers, people are searching for infomation on MSBuild a lot ATM, so we may as well set the record straight right from the beginning. Stefan Footnotes: [1] While googling for msbuild and ant - I wanted to see why my blog gets so many hits 8-) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
