That’s not a single person, it impacts the committers and the PR author
involved too. I don’t see how team productivity soars here.

On Wed, 30 Apr 2025 at 02:39, Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> wrote:

> But yes, I also miss the previous "merge because I think it's safe"
> workflow.
>
> I badly miss it. Personally, It hurts my productivity.
>
> But I think the "require status check" to be green is great for "team
> productivity". Usually when single person is impacted more than team in
> general, it's worse for the person impacted, but team productivity soars.
>
> J.
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 29, 2025 at 11:03 PM Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> wrote:
>
> > Just to add comment:
> >
> > a) there was some instability of "celery/boto" hanging tests today that
> is
> > rather difficult to address - but we worked around it by just removing
> > "special-tests" from pre-requisite of merging
> > b) GitHub today (like literally today!) started to be picky on "too many
> > requests" - I addressed it today for both helm chart and our release
> tests
> > (we are using bearer-token to authenticate and increase the limit - and
> we
> > added cache on downloading json schema that was downloaded "per-test"
> > c) in cases like the one mentioned above with intermittent failures -
> > simple "rerun failed jobs" (assuming it will succeed after rerun) - is
> > essentially equivalent of "merge" (unless it fails again which for me is
> a
> > signal of "DO NOT MERGE")
> > d) we always have the "gitbox" escape hatch - that allows any committer
> to
> > push the fix directly, bypassing the limits:
> >
> > This is a simple thing for committers:
> >
> > git add remote gitbox https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf/airflow.git
> > git fetch gitbox
> > git commit --amend ("add #PR number")
> > git push gitbox BRANCH_NAME:main (you need to provide your apache id and
> > password)
> >
> > This is a nice escape hatch that we can use as "exceptional workflow" -
> > and it works - I did it quite a few times over the last few days. Not UI
> > controlled, but IMHO exceptional workflow should be -  well -
> exceptional.
> >
> > J.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 29, 2025 at 8:52 PM Kaxil Naik <kaxiln...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Similar experience as Elad, I am in favor of disabling it tbh. For
> >> example,
> >> https://github.com/apache/airflow/pull/49727 has a failing test as
> below
> >> --
> >> which is not an issue, and test passes locally so I would want to merge
> it
> >> but I can't.
> >>
> >> FAILED
> >>
> >>
> helm-tests/tests/helm_tests/airflow_aux/test_basic_helm_chart.py::TestBaseChartTest::test_priority_classes
> >> - requests.exceptions.HTTPError: 429 Client Error: Too Many Requests for
> >> url:
> >>
> >>
> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/yannh/kubernetes-json-schema/master/v1.29.1-standalone-strict/priorityclass-scheduling-v1.json
> >>
> >> On Tue, 29 Apr 2025 at 18:29, Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Tue, Apr 29, 2025 at 1:46 PM Elad Kalif <elad...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Thanks for that Jarek!
> >> > > I find the lack of ability to merge PRs fast very limiting but it
> >> might
> >> > be
> >> > > just something to get used to.
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> > Indeed. I also see it, but also I got a few manually pushed "must fix
> >> > quickly" to gitbox, and actually I find it really nice - because it is
> >> > still possible, but it require some extra effort and deliberate "ok
> that
> >> > one really should be pushed to unblock everyone" - as long as we all
> >> > (especially those people that are active in the
> >> > #internal-airfow-ci-cd channel) know how to do it and can fix things
> >> > quickly, this is actually a nice way to make it into "exceptional"
> >> workflow
> >> > - which will push us more in making sure airflow main is really
> "green"
> >> -
> >> > which ultimately is our goal to make it as green as possible all the
> >> time.
> >> >
> >> > What **might help with that** (and also keeping the "enable auto
> merge"
> >> > might motivate it more to) is to:
> >> >
> >> > * speed up the builds - we MUST prioritise now ARC (K8S self-hosted
> >> > runners) to make our builds simply faster - I started a discussion
> and a
> >> > small group of people who can work together to complete it after
> >> Hussein's
> >> > POC)
> >> > * speed up the image release - with ARM runners (which we might be
> able
> >> to
> >> > do independently as recently I think we have hypervisor-enabled ARM
> >> images
> >> > available as public runners as github made it generally available).
> >> > * speed up the doc builds for airflow-site - we (mainly Pavan) are
> >> close to
> >> > complete offloading of the historical release docs to S3 and I hope it
> >> will
> >> > cut down a lot on doc publishing workflows.
> >> >
> >> > J,
> >> >
> >>
> >
>

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