Looks like we have our new team members then :)

On Sat, Jan 6, 2024 at 4:17 PM Wei Lee <weilee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Jarek,
>
> I’m also interested in learning security stuff, but I have no related 
> experience. I'm not sure whether I fit the criteria.
>
> Best,
> Wei
>
> > On Jan 6, 2024, at 12:56 PM, Amogh Desai <amoghdesai....@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Jarek,
> >
> > I have personally never done much on security, neither followed a lot of
> > blogs/learning materials regarding
> > it so far. I want to explore this untouched territory by myself, but I am
> > not so sure if this will be the right forum for "experimentation".
> >
> > So, not so sure if I cut the criteria here.
> >
> > Thanks & Regards,
> > Amogh Desai
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 6, 2024 at 2:14 AM Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> wrote:
> >
> >> * we have to know the candidate  - they have to be either a committer
> >> or someone who has contributed a lot and we know who the person is.
> >> Stakeholders and community members that we know and can trust might
> >> also nominate some people who have security experience and already
> >> work on security (especially if they work on Airflow) outside of the
> >> community - we know our stakeholders have dedicated security people
> >> who have a good experience and they are not known to us simply due to
> >> "secrecy" around security.
> >>
> >>
> >> I'd say you both fulfill the criteria :)
> >>
> >> On Fri, Jan 5, 2024 at 9:22 PM utkarsh sharma <utkarshar...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hey Jarek,
> >>>
> >>> I'm very interested in security-related stuff, but not sure if I fit the
> >>> bill. :)
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Utkarsh
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, Jan 6, 2024 at 1:43 AM Ryan Hatter
> >>> <ryan.hat...@astronomer.io.invalid> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> What are the criteria? Just curious, as I'm quite confident I do not
> >> fit
> >>>> the criteria 😀
> >>>>
> >>>> On Fri, Jan 5, 2024 at 9:21 AM Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hello everyone,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> TL;DR; In short - we are looking for candidates to join our security
> >>>>> team. Please send a message to priv...@airflow.apache.org if you
> >> would
> >>>>> like to be added to the team.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Following this:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >> https://github.com/apache/airflow/blob/main/CONTRIBUTING.rst#periodic-security-team-rotation
> >>>>> I wanted to make a call for new security team members. Some of the
> >>>>> people will rotate out the team as well (we want to keep the team
> >>>>> small and lean and focused).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> First of all I have a great pleasure - in the name of the community -
> >>>>> to thank for all the work the current security team has accomplished.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> When we started discussions at the beginning of last year we had ~ 20
> >>>>> outstanding issues, some of them older than 6 months and the process
> >>>>> of fixing them was not really cool. Today we have 0 (yes - 0)
> >>>>> unhandled issues. And we had >50 issues raised since so we not only
> >>>>> managed to fix the backlog but also we handled incoming issues. We
> >>>>> have much better understanding on how to handle them, we've improved
> >>>>> and clarified our security model, and we even have some standard ways
> >>>>> on handling and responding to similar issues when they come. And we
> >>>>> have learning material for new team members to take a look at.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> What's going to happen now?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> We want to partially rotate the team - first of all to give the
> >>>>> experienced and recognized community members an opportunity to learn
> >>>>> and participate in our security process, but also to distribute a bit
> >>>>> more knowledge on handling security issues in the community.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I personally believe that security will become increasingly more
> >>>>> important in the years to come - things like Cyber Resilience Act
> >>>>>
> >> https://digital-strategy.ec.europa.eu/en/library/cyber-resilience-act
> >>>>> will create a lot of opportunities to make use of the knowledge you
> >>>>> can gain by becoming part of security team so I think it's also good
> >>>>> to have an experience in it in a professional portflolio.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> What does it mean to be in a security team?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * You will be subscribed to receive reports from security researchers
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * You will take part in the discussions when we assess the issues -
> >>>>> whether they are real issues, what severity they have, how we can
> >>>>> address them
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * You will take part in discussing on how we can improve current
> >>>>> processes and even how to improve our security model  and whether we
> >>>>> need to apply some systematic fixes
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * You will possibly volunteer to fix or review, or talk to other
> >>>>> community members to fix it  help with handling some of the security
> >>>>> issues
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * The traffic on our security list (after we got through the backlog)
> >>>>> is moderate to small - there are maybe 1 new issue a week (usually
> >>>>> less than one) and we have occasional discussions that might be more
> >>>>> frequent
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * For the new team members - we have learning materials to get to
> >>>>> understand how things work - I will prepare some "on-boarding"
> >>>>> packages.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * This is not a permanent "assignment" - as you see now we are doing
> >> a
> >>>>> partial rotation to get some people out and bring people in, it's ok
> >>>>> to leave the team if you have no time to take part and also if you
> >>>>> want to leave room for others. We just introduced it and we might
> >> want
> >>>>> to do ad-hoc rotation or more frequent regular rotation in the
> >> future.
> >>>>> This will also depend on the needs we will have.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Few things for potential candidates:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * we have to know the candidate  - they have to be either a committer
> >>>>> or someone who has contributed a lot and we know who the person is.
> >>>>> Stakeholders and community members that we know and can trust might
> >>>>> also nominate some people who have security experience and already
> >>>>> work on security (especially if they work on Airflow) outside of the
> >>>>> community - we know our stakeholders have dedicated security people
> >>>>> who have a good experience and they are not known to us simply due to
> >>>>> "secrecy" around security.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * we do not publicly announce who is in the team - also a bit due to
> >>>>> secrecy. But PMC members know who is in it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * joining the team requires signing an ICLA with the Apache Software
> >>>>> Foundation https://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.pdf where you state
> >>>>> who you are. For obvious reasons.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * PMC members might join as they wish. People who are not in the PMC
> >>>>> (including committers) have to get a PMC approval. PMC members also
> >>>>> have access to the secur...@airflow.apache.org archive, so they can
> >>>>> follow the discussions there if they want, they are just not part of
> >>>>> the default team to get the notifications
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * Release managers are members of the security team by default as
> >> they
> >>>>> need to announce and manage the CVE announcements fixed in the
> >>>>> releases
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * we want the team to be lean and "small-ish" - so we might just
> >>>>> select a few people and thank others if we have too many candidates.
> >>>>> We currently have 15 people in the team. I think 10-15 is a good
> >>>>> number to keep.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Feel free to reach out to priv...@airflow.apache.org if you would
> >> like
> >>>>> to apply and you think you fulfill the criteria :).
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> J.
> >>>>>
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