So it looks like we have some helping hands and we need someone to lead it :) (just saying).
On Tue, Oct 24, 2023 at 8:15 AM Amogh Desai <amoghdesai....@gmail.com> wrote: > +1 (non binding) from me on the thought of moving the older docs (~18 > months seems ok) to an archive instead of the repository. > > Coming to the other problem of copying the built docs into airflow-site for > releases, maybe we can fix that using a script? Open for thoughts here. > > I would be very happy to help when we start taking this forward, I have > some experience in airflow-site and docs side as well. Feel free to reach > out over email or slack :) > > Thanks & Regards, > Amogh Desai > > On Mon, Oct 23, 2023 at 3:08 AM Aritra Basu <aritrabasu1...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > This definitely sounds like something that needs doing sooner rather than > > later. > > > > While I'd love to help, I'm not too experienced with this area so I might > > not be able to actually propose what changes need doing, but if someone > has > > a path forward on this I can definitely contribute some time to help out > > given some guidance on what is needed. > > > > -- > > Regards, > > Aritra Basu > > > > On Mon, Oct 23, 2023, 2:19 AM Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> wrote: > > > > > Some news here. > > > > > > I caught up with some infra changes that happened while I was > travelling > > - > > > and I have just (with https://github.com/apache/airflow-site/pull/879) > > > switched the "airflow-site" building to the new, self-hosted > > "asf-runners". > > > This is a new option that ASF infra has given to test for the ASF > > projects > > > - rather than relying on "public runners", we can switch to self-hosted > > > runners donated by Microsoft to the ASF. More info here: > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?spaceKey=INFRA&title=ASF+Infra+provided+self-hosted+runners > > > > > > The most important result is that we now have a lot more "breathing > > space" > > > for the docs building job. During the build we are using max 59% of the > > > disk space - with 73GB used and 52GB free. > > > > > > Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on > > > overlay 124G 73G 52G 59% / > > > > > > This is - on one hand - good news (disk space is not an "acute" issue > any > > > more), I think if someone would like to work on improving the docs > > building > > > of ours, they have much more breathing space to do so. > > > But - clearly - it might mean that the incentive to work on it > decreased > > - > > > because it "just works"). That's the bad effect of it. And I think it's > > not > > > good, though the most I can do is to reiterate Ryan's concerns and hope > > we > > > will get someone committing to improving this. > > > > > > I would strongly encourage those who want to improve it, to do so. I > > think > > > - as Ryan stated - contributing to our docs is more complex than it > > should > > > be and anyone who would like to contribute there is most welcome. I > very > > > much share all the points that Ryan made and I think we should welcome > > any > > > efforts to make it better. The lack of incremental/auto-build support > is > > > especially troublesome for anyone who wants to contribute their docs. > > Happy > > > to help anyone who would like to take on the task. > > > > > > Still - if we would like to move old docs outside as a first step, I am > > > happy to help anyone who would like to commit to doing it. > > > > > > J. > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 3:27 PM Pierre Jeambrun <pierrejb...@gmail.com > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > +1 from moving archived docs outside of airflow-site. > > > > > > > > Even if that might mean a little more maintenance in case we need to > > > > propagate changes to all historical versions, we would have to > handle 2 > > > > repositories, but that seems like a minor downside compared to the > > > quality > > > > of life improvement that it would bring for airflow-site > contributions. > > > > > > > > Le jeu. 19 oct. 2023 à 16:11, Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> a > écrit > > : > > > > > > > > > Let me just clarify (because that could be unclear) what my +1 was > > > about. > > > > > > > > > > I was not talking (and I believe Ryan was not talking either) about > > > > > removing the old docs but about archiving them and serving from > > > elsewhere > > > > > (cloud storage). > > > > > > > > > > I think discussing changing to more shared HTML/JS/CSS is also a > good > > > > idea > > > > > to optimise it, but possibly can be handled separately as a longer > > > effort > > > > > of redesigning how the docs are built. But by all means we could > also > > > > work > > > > > on that. > > > > > > > > > > Maybe I jumped to conclusions, but the easiest, tactical solution > > (for > > > > the > > > > > most acute issue - size) is we just move the old generated HTML > docs > > > from > > > > > the git repository of "airflow-site" and in the "github_pages" > branch > > > we > > > > > replace it with redirecting of those pages to the files served from > > the > > > > > cloud storage (and I believe this is what Ryan hinted at). > > > > > > > > > > Those redirects could be automatically generated for all > > > > > historical versions and they will be small. We are already doing > it > > > for > > > > > individual pages for navigating between versions, but we could > easily > > > > > replace all the historical docs with "<html><head><meta > > > > > http-equiv="refresh" content="0; url= > > > > > https://new-archive-docs-airflow-url/airflow/version/document.url"; > > > > > "/></head></html>". Low-tech, surely and "legacy", but it will > solve > > > the > > > > > size problem instantly. We currently have 115.148 such files which > > will > > > > go > > > > > down to about ~20 MB of files which is peanuts, compared to the > > current > > > > > 17GB (!) we have. > > > > > > > > > > We can also inject into the moved "storage" docs, the header that > > > informs > > > > > that this is an old/archived documentation with single redirect to > > > > > "live"/"stable" site for newer versions of docs (which I believe > > > sparked > > > > > Ryan's work). This can be done at least as the "quick" remediation > > for > > > > the > > > > > size issue and something that might allow the current scheme to > > > > > work without ever-growing repo/size and using space for the build > > > action. > > > > > If we have such an automated mechanism in place, we could > > periodically > > > > > archive old docs. All that without changing the build process of > ours > > > and > > > > > simply keep old "past" docs elsewhere (still accessible for users). > > > > > > > > > > Not much should change for the users IMHO - if they go to the old > > > version > > > > > of the docs or use old, archived URLs, they would end up seeing the > > > > > same content/navigation they see today (with extra information it's > > an > > > > old > > > > > version and served from a different URL). > > > > > When they go to the "old" version of documentation they could be > > > > redirected > > > > > to the new one - same HTML but hosted on cloud storage, fully > > > statically. > > > > > We already do that with "redirect" mechanism. > > > > > > > > > > In the meantime, someone could also work on a strategic solution - > > and > > > > > changing the current build process, but this is - I think a > > different - > > > > > and much more complex and requiring a lot of effort - step. And it > > > could > > > > > simply end up with regenerating whatever is left as "live" > > > documentation > > > > > (leaving the archive docs intact). > > > > > > > > > > That's at least what I see as a possible set of steps to take. > > > > > > > > > > J. > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 19, 2023 at 2:14 PM utkarsh sharma < > > utkarshar...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hey everyone, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, Ryan for stating the thread :) > > > > > > > > > > > > Big +1 For archiving docs older than 18 months. We can still make > > the > > > > > older > > > > > > docs available in `rst` doc form. > > > > > > > > > > > > But eventually, we might again run into this problem because of > the > > > > > growing > > > > > > no. of providers. I think the main reason for this issue is the > > > > generated > > > > > > static HTML pages and the way we cater to them using GitHub > Pages. > > > The > > > > > > generated pages have lots of common code > > > > > > HTML(headers/navigation/breadcrumbs/footer etc.) CSS, JS which is > > > > > repeated > > > > > > for every provider and every version of that provider. If we > have a > > > > more > > > > > > dynamic way(Django/Flask Servers) of catering the documents we > can > > > save > > > > > all > > > > > > the space for common HTML/CSS/JS. > > > > > > > > > > > > But the downsides of this approach are: > > > > > > 1. We need to have a server > > > > > > 2. Also require changes in the existing document build process to > > > only > > > > > > produce partial HTML documents. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Utkarsh Sharma > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 19, 2023 at 4:08 PM Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes. Moving the old version to somewhere that we can > keep/archive > > > > > static > > > > > > > historical versions of those historical docs and publish them > > from > > > > > there. > > > > > > > What you proposed is exactly the solution I thought might be > best > > > as > > > > > > well. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It would be a great task to contribute to the stability of our > > docs > > > > > > > generation in the future. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't think it's a matter of discussing in detail how to do > it > > > (18 > > > > > > months > > > > > > > is a good start and you can parameterize it), It's the matter > of > > > > > > > someone committing to it and doing it simply :). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So yes I personally am all for it and if I understand correctly > > > that > > > > > you > > > > > > > are looking for agreement on doing it, big +1 from my side - > > happy > > > to > > > > > > help > > > > > > > with providing access to our S3 buckets. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > J. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 19, 2023 at 5:39 AM Ryan Hatter > > > > > > > <ryan.hat...@astronomer.io.invalid> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *tl;dr* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. The GitHub Action for building docs is running out of > > > space. > > > > I > > > > > > > think > > > > > > > > we should archive really old documentation for large > > packages > > > to > > > > > > cloud > > > > > > > > storage. > > > > > > > > 2. Contributing to and building Airflow docs is hard. We > > > should > > > > > > > migrate > > > > > > > > to a framework, preferably one that uses markdown > (although > > I > > > > > > > > acknowledge > > > > > > > > rst -> md will be a massive overhaul). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Problem Summary* > > > > > > > > I recently set out to implement what I thought would be a > > > > > > straightforward > > > > > > > > feature: warn users when they are viewing documentation for > > > > > non-current > > > > > > > > versions of Airflow and link them to the current/stable > version > > > > > > > > <https://github.com/apache/airflow/pull/34639>. Jed pointed > me > > > to > > > > > the > > > > > > > > airflow-site <https://github.com/apache/airflow-site> repo, > > > which > > > > > > > contains > > > > > > > > all of the archived docs (that is, documentation for > > non-current > > > > > > > versions), > > > > > > > > and from there, I ran into a brick wall. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I want to raise some concerns that I've developed after > trying > > to > > > > > > > > contribute what feel like a couple reasonably small docs > > updates: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. airflow-site > > > > > > > > 1. Elad pointed out the problem posed by the sheer size > > of > > > > > > archived > > > > > > > > docs > > > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://apache-airflow.slack.com/archives/CCPRP7943/p1697009000242369?thread_ts=1696973512.004229&cid=CCPRP7943 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (more > > > > > > > > on this later). > > > > > > > > 2. The airflow-site repo is confusing, and rather > poorly > > > > > > > documented. > > > > > > > > 1. Hugo (static site generator) exists, but appears > to > > > > only > > > > > be > > > > > > > > used for the landing pages > > > > > > > > 2. In order to view any documentation locally other > > than > > > > the > > > > > > > > landing pages, you'll need to run the site.sh script > > > then > > > > > > > > copy the output > > > > > > > > from one dir to another? > > > > > > > > 3. All of the archived docs are raw HTML, making > > migrating > > > > to a > > > > > > > > static site generator a significant challenge, which > > makes > > > it > > > > > > > > difficult to > > > > > > > > prevent the archived docs from continuing to grow and > > grow. > > > > > > > > Perhaps this is the > > > > > > > > wheel Khaleesi was referring to > > > > > > > > <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-rxmk6zPxA>? > > > > > > > > 2. airflow > > > > > > > > 1. Building Airflow docs is a challenge. It takes > several > > > > > minutes > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > doesn't support auto-build, so the slightest issue > could > > > > > require > > > > > > > > waiting > > > > > > > > again and again until the changes are just so. I tried > > > > > > implementing > > > > > > > > sphinx-autobuild < > > > > > > > > https://github.com/executablebooks/sphinx-autobuild> > > > > > > > > to no avail. > > > > > > > > 2. Sphinx/restructured text has a steep learning curve. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *The most acute issue: disk space* > > > > > > > > The size of the archived docs is causing the docs build > GitHub > > > > Action > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > almost run out of space. From the "Build site" Action from a > > > couple > > > > > > weeks > > > > > > > > ago > > > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/airflow-site/actions/runs/6419529645/job/17432628458 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (expand > > > > > > > > the build site step, scroll all the way to the bottom, expand > > the > > > > `df > > > > > > -h` > > > > > > > > command), we can see the GitHub Action runner (or whatever > it's > > > > > called) > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > nearly running out of space: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > df -h > > > > > > > > *Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on* > > > > > > > > /dev/root 84G 82G 2.1G 98% / > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The available space is down to 1.8G on the most recent Action > > > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/airflow-site/actions/runs/6564727255/job/17831714176 > > > > > > > > >. > > > > > > > > If we assume that trend is accurate, we have about two months > > > > before > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > Action runner runs out of disk space. Here's a breakdown of > the > > > > space > > > > > > > > consumed by the 10 largest package documentation directories: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > du -h -d 1 docs-archive/ | sort -h -r > > > > > > > > * 14G* docs-archive/ > > > > > > > > *4.0G* docs-archive//apache-airflow-providers-google > > > > > > > > *3.2G* docs-archive//apache-airflow > > > > > > > > *1.7G* docs-archive//apache-airflow-providers-amazon > > > > > > > > *560M* docs-archive//apache-airflow-providers-microsoft-azure > > > > > > > > *254M* docs-archive//apache-airflow-providers-cncf-kubernetes > > > > > > > > *192M* docs-archive//apache-airflow-providers-apache-hive > > > > > > > > *153M* docs-archive//apache-airflow-providers-snowflake > > > > > > > > *139M* docs-archive//apache-airflow-providers-databricks > > > > > > > > *104M* docs-archive//apache-airflow-providers-docker > > > > > > > > *101M* docs-archive//apache-airflow-providers-mysql > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Proposed solution: Archive old docs html for large packages > to > > > > cloud > > > > > > > > storage* > > > > > > > > I'm wondering if it would be reasonable to truly archive the > > docs > > > > for > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > of the older versions of these packages. Perhaps the last 18 > > > > months? > > > > > > > Maybe > > > > > > > > we could drop the html in a blob storage bucket with > > instructions > > > > for > > > > > > > > building the docs if absolutely necessary? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Improving docs building moving forward* > > > > > > > > There's an open Issue < > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/airflow-site/issues/719 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > migrating the docs to a framework, but it's not at all a > > > > > > straightforward > > > > > > > > task for the archived docs. I think that we should institute > a > > > > policy > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > archiving old documentation to cloud storage after X time and > > > use a > > > > > > > > framework for building docs in a scalable and sustainable way > > > > moving > > > > > > > > forward. Maybe we could chat with iceberg folks about how > they > > > > moved > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > mkdocs to hugo? < > https://github.com/apache/iceberg/issues/3616 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shoutout to Utkarsh for helping me through all this! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
