Yep. I am also for the idea described by Pierre. In short - setting the
requirement automatically turn on a DEBUG mode with all possible DEBUG
features turned on.

On Thu, Aug 31, 2023 at 6:03 AM Amogh Desai <amoghdesai....@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Going through the discussions above, I was leaning towards the idea of
> removing it completely initially but came across Pierre's idea after. I
> like that!
>
> Thanks & Regards,
> Amogh Desai
>
> On Wed, Aug 30, 2023 at 1:58 PM Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> wrote:
>
> > Whoa.. I am glad I started it... I see some really good ideas here :).
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 30, 2023 at 9:20 AM Pierre Jeambrun <pierrejb...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Maybe we can introduce a global “DEBUG” config option/env variable.
> This
> > > could control some more verbose logging but most importantly only when
> > this
> > > is turned on, we could use the sequential executor, debug executor,
> > > _PIP_ADDITIONAL_REQUIREMENTS
> > > and any other “debug/development” purpose options.
> > >
> > > Like for other frameworks this would be documented and user would have
> a
> > > warning when using it.
> > >
> > > Then there is nothing more we can do if the user puts in production a
> > > cluster in debug mode, this would be deliberate. (Like set the debug
> > option
> > > to True and then use the sequential executor).
> > >
> > > This could also automatically start the web server in debug mode and
> > other
> > > components in a similar way when detected to true.
> > >
> > > We could even limit the number of workers to 1 or other things that
> would
> > > make it unsuitable in a production environment.
> > >
> > > Just an idea.
> > >
> > > On Wed 30 Aug 2023 at 03:55, Pankaj Koti <pankaj.k...@astronomer.io
> > > .invalid>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I agree with Maciej's rationale here and inclined towards removing it
> > > > straight away.
> > > >
> > > > Also, is it the case that users have discovered this flag themselves
> > > > without us documenting it anywhere as a feature to use?
> > > >
> > > > *We have a leading underscore for the variable and it hints that it's
> > for
> > > > internal use.*
> > > >
> > > > I would be up for failing the image without any deprecation/warning
> if
> > we
> > > > have not documented it as a feature to use.
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, 30 Aug 2023, 03:16 Oliveira, Niko,
> <oniko...@amazon.com.invalid
> > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I'd vote for a period of time with warnings (either in the logs
> > and/or
> > > in
> > > > > the Airflow UI), as a deprecation warning of sorts. Followed by
> > > removing
> > > > > the feature later on, unless we find that the warnings are enough
> to
> > > > lower
> > > > > the operational load this causes us, but I think that's unlikely.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > Niko
> > > > >
> > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > From: Jed Cunningham <jedcunning...@apache.org>
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2023 10:05:01 AM
> > > > > To: dev@airflow.apache.org
> > > > > Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] [DISCUSS] Preventing users from misusing
> > > > > _PIP_ADDITIONAL_REQUIREMENTS ?
> > > > >
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> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I also don't like the 10 minute thing. I'd rather we remove it, or
> > > > display
> > > > > a message like we do sequential executor (we can only do so much,
> > this
> > > is
> > > > > as visible as we can make it really), I think in that order?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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