+1 binding

On Wed, 22 Feb 2023 at 07:41, Ping Zhang <pin...@umich.edu> wrote:

> +1 binding
>
> On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 23:46 Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> This is a call for the vote to make an internal change to move the code
>> of K8S, Celery and related (LocalKubernetes., CeleryKubernetes etc. ) to
>> respective providers.
>>
>> Consider it +1 (binding) from my side.
>>
>> This has been discussed in
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread/kwwhz62lddygodpgr3fk4b9tthtld9do and let
>> me summarize it below:
>>
>> # Why?
>>
>> Multiple reasons:
>>
>> * It will make it easier to manage consistency between K8S Pod Manager
>> and K8S executor. In the past there were non-trivial dependencies between
>> those that resulted in k8s provider being limited to latest airflow versions
>> * It's non-obvious that the code used in K8S executor uses two different
>> artifacts (airflow and cncnf.k8s provider) and it limits our abilities to
>> refactor/modify/improve this code as it has to work with various
>> combinations of airflow + cncf.kubernete versions
>> * provider's releases (major/minor versions) have much faster release
>> cycle and we can both - fix and provide new features to those executors
>> * users who have good reasons to not to upgrade to latest airflow
>> releases will be able to use latest k8s/celery executors by updating
>> providers only
>> * if there are regressions with executors in newer airflow versions,
>> users will be able to downgrade providers - without downgrading the whole
>> airflow (downgrading the DB etc.)
>> * this follows the philosophy of Airflow-as-a-platform, where anyone can
>> extend Airflow by adding new plugins/providers and moving the executor to
>> providers proves the point that anyone can do their own executor and that
>> they will have the same capabilities as the ones that are built-in
>>
>> # Why now?
>>
>> We are in the process of finishing AIP-51 with executor decoupling and
>> where we got rid of the hard-coded behaviour of Airflow depending on what
>> executor was used. It was simply impossible before to move the executors to
>> providers, because the hard-coded behaviours had to maintain the knowledge
>> about which executor is used. Executor's API was incomplete and some
>> behaviours of the executors were hard-coded. With AIP-51 completed executor
>> implementation can simply rely on the complete executor's API - including
>> exposing properties of the executor that can change airflow core behaviour
>> appropriately by inspecting the properties.
>>
>> # Backwards compatibility
>>
>> I believe we will be able to make it fully backwards compatible with the
>> usage of PEP 562 and deprecation notices (same as we did with contrib
>> packages). Also we seem to be converging on the
>> backwards-compatibility approach, specifically excluding the implementation
>> of executors from our "Public API list"
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread/d90b1yvsbwzy5flnd3vslfjs38x76kyj
>>
>> We will turn  "cncf.kubernetes" and "celery" providers into
>> "pre-installed" providers, which means that one will be able to use all the
>> built-in executors with just "pip install airflow" (interestingly enough
>> before that one had to install the k8s provider to make the K8s executor
>> work even if they were part of the core which was sub-optimal).
>>
>> Also, resulting from the discussion we will keep documentation for
>> available executors in Airflow (so they will still be considered as THE
>> executors available and will be discoverable in the same way as today).
>>
>> # Potential problems
>>
>> Seems there are no known problems it can cause. There is the question
>> "where to put CeleryKubernetesExecutor?" and the proposal is to put it in
>> "cncf.k8s" and treat celery as an optional dependency ("celery" extra) of
>> "cncf.k8s" provider. Since both providers will be pre-installed, this is
>> not a problem or concern for any use case.
>>
>> J.
>>
>> --
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ping
>

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