Yeah, that would be nice.

On Sat, Jan 11, 2020, 10:35 Tomasz Urbaszek <turbas...@apache.org> wrote:

> An additional advantage of GA + self-hosted runners is the ability to
> ssh to machine and see what is going on (for example why tests timeout).
>
> T.
>
> On Sat, Jan 11, 2020 at 4:23 AM Kaxil Naik <kaxiln...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Awesome Tomek, great job. Waiting for your PR eagerly :) and can't wait
> to
> > move out of Travis.
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 2:54 PM Tomasz Urbaszek <
> > tomasz.urbas...@polidea.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > Just a small update:
> > > - after Jarek's changes from
> https://github.com/apache/airflow/pull/6516
> > > kubernetes
> > >   builds started to run (proviously there was an issue with kind)
> > > - I am testing self-hosted runners
> > >
> > > It seems that possible migration is getting closer ;)
> > >
> > > Bests,
> > > Tomek
> > >
> > > On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 3:28 PM Philippe Gagnon <philgagn...@gmail.com
> >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > We have been using Actions on the prestosql project for a little
> while
> > > as a
> > > > Travis replacement and we like it a lot.
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 9:08 AM Jarek Potiuk <
> jarek.pot...@polidea.com
> > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > :(
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 2:35 PM Tomasz Urbaszek <
> > > > > tomasz.urbas...@polidea.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I started to play with self-hosted runner and... well,
> encountered
> > > > known
> > > > > > error:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://github.community/t5/GitHub-Actions/Github-action-stuck-at-queue/td-p/38003
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It seems that GA is still maturing.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Bests,
> > > > > > Tomek
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 5:06 PM Jarek Potiuk <
> > > jarek.pot...@polidea.com
> > > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yeah. All at once seems more than reasonable.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > J.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 4:50 PM Kaxil Naik <
> kaxiln...@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Agree with Daniel, let's do it all at once.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 3:49 PM Daniel Imberman <
> > > > > > > daniel.imber...@gmail.com
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I’d rather we do it all at once and not need to maintain
> two
> > > > > builds.
> > > > > > > > > Most/all of our CI/CD is dockerized at this point so there
> > > > > shouldn’t
> > > > > > > be a
> > > > > > > > > huge difference.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 1:23 AM, Tomasz Urbaszek <
> > > > > > > > > tomasz.urbas...@polidea.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I have to solve a problem with our kubernetes test but for
> > your
> > > > > > > > information
> > > > > > > > > I have never experienced a flaky
> > > > > > > > > or timeouted build on Github Actions. Maybe I am lucky or
> > maybe
> > > > > > there's
> > > > > > > > > something different.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > If we agree to move to Github Actions, would we like to
> > migrate
> > > > > > > > > incrementally or fully?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Bests,
> > > > > > > > > Tomek
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 1:06 AM Jarek Potiuk <
> > > > > > jarek.pot...@polidea.com
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > No problem on that side - Tomek is using the same scripts
> > we
> > > > have
> > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > Travis
> > > > > > > > > > (and they generally work - I think the last step is to
> make
> > > all
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > tests pass. We have still a number of dependencies
> between
> > > > tests
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > some
> > > > > > > > > > environmental flakiness so that some tests consistently
> > fail
> > > in
> > > > > > > Github
> > > > > > > > > > Actions where they did not fail in Travis. From latest
> try
> > by
> > > > > Tomek
> > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > looks like we are 1 test to go (plus some cleanup/setup
> of
> > > > > project
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > making sure all is stable):
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > ==== 1 failed, 4030 passed, 119 skipped, 16 warnings in
> > > > 1207.96s
> > > > > > > > > (0:20:07)
> > > > > > > > > > =====
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > We discussed with Tomek and Kamil that in order to speed
> it
> > > up
> > > > we
> > > > > > > might
> > > > > > > > > > want to run our own workers on the GCP account we have -
> > just
> > > > to
> > > > > > test
> > > > > > > > > > quickly how much we can optimise it and I am inclined to
> > > agree.
> > > > > If
> > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > do
> > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > this way, the transition might be rather fast.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > If we want to use auto-scalable GKE cluster as we
> > originally
> > > > > > planned
> > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > might take more time to setup (similar setup to what I
> > tried
> > > > with
> > > > > > > > > GitLab).
> > > > > > > > > > There we might need to use docker-in-docker to build the
> CI
> > > > image
> > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > > latest as first step of build and then use that built
> image
> > > by
> > > > > all
> > > > > > > > > > subsequent steps. But we can do it as the next step -
> > > > optimising
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > experience.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > J.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 11:34 PM Daniel Imberman <
> > > > > > > > > > daniel.imber...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > +1 on my end as well.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > @jarek does this affect anything involving breeze? Do
> > > GitHub
> > > > > > > actions
> > > > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > > > an easy docker/docker-compose based workflow?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > via Newton Mail [
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://cloudmagic.com/k/d/mailapp?ct=dx&cv=10.0.32&pv=10.14.5&source=email_footer_2
> > > > > > > > > > > ]
> > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 5:28 AM, Ash Berlin-Taylor <
> > > > > > a...@apache.org
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > Legal: no I don't think so.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Infra: possibly yes to get secrets in there to run
> things
> > > on
> > > > > our
> > > > > > > own
> > > > > > > > > > > "hardware" -
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://help.github.com/en/actions/automating-your-workflow-with-github-actions/creating-and-using-encrypted-secrets
> > > > > > > > > > > <
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://help.github.com/en/actions/automating-your-workflow-with-github-actions/creating-and-using-encrypted-secrets
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > needs someone with Admin rights to create, and I don't
> > see
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > Settings
> > > > > > > > > > tab
> > > > > > > > > > > at all.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > -ash
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > On 10 Dec 2019, at 02:46, Deng Xiaodong <
> > > > xd.den...@gmail.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > +1 for GitHub Actions. I have been using it for
> months
> > > for
> > > > my
> > > > > > > side
> > > > > > > > > > > > projects, and it’s working very well. I believe most
> of
> > > us
> > > > > are
> > > > > > > > quite
> > > > > > > > > > > tired
> > > > > > > > > > > > of the waiting time using Travis CI.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > The only point I would like to remind is whether we
> > need
> > > to
> > > > > > > > > communicate
> > > > > > > > > > > > with Infra/Legal team for this.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > XD
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 06:49 Kaxil Naik <
> > > > > kaxiln...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >> +1 for Github actions
> > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > >> On Mon, Dec 9, 2019, 22:16 Ash Berlin-Taylor <
> > > > > a...@apache.org>
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>> Happy with any thing that gives a more seamless CI
> > > > > > experience -
> > > > > > > > > > faster
> > > > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > > >>> good too!
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>> -a
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>> On 9 December 2019 22:12:05 GMT, Aizhamal Nurmamat
> > > kyzy <
> > > > > > > > > > > >>> aizha...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> +1 on GitHub Actions.
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 2:10 PM Jarek Potiuk <
> > > > > > > > > > jarek.pot...@polidea.com
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> I am all for it! GitLab has been less-than
> helpful
> > so
> > > > far
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> recently it
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> seems that running PRs from forks will only be
> run
> > in
> > > > > > > > Enterrprise
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Edition,
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> which is less than welcome. I am quite a bit
> > > > disappointed
> > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> pace and
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> attitude. Github Actions seems to be much better
> > > > choice -
> > > > > > > > > > especially
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> that
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> they are closely integrated with Github repo and
> > seem
> > > > to
> > > > > > get
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> attention/focus from Github/Microsoft.
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> And they added self-hosted runners as well, which
> > > makes
> > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > possible
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> for us
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> to optimise the experience.
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> J.
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> J.
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 10:57 PM Tomasz Urbaszek <
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> tomasz.urbas...@polidea.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> Hi all,
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> It sometime since we last discussed using other
> CI
> > > > than
> > > > > > > > Travis.
> > > > > > > > > > One
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> of
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> the
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> main reasons behind considering Gitlab CI was
> its
> > > > > ability
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > work
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> on
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> self-hosted runner. However, over time of few
> long
> > > > weeks
> > > > > > > > Github
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Actions
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> matured enough to allow using self-hosted
> runners!
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> Github Actions are still growing but using them
> > have
> > > > few
> > > > > > big
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> advantages:
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> - they are Github natives
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> - forking repo and enabling actions will run CI
> on
> > > > your
> > > > > > fork
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> automatically
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> - variety of actions (PR checks, greetings, etc)
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> I put together a PoC of CI in our internal repo:
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > https://github.com/PolideaInternal/airflow/pull/542
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> My impression is quite good. I like information
> > > about
> > > > > > steps
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> successes at
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> the PR level (no need to go to CI to check which
> > > step
> > > > > > > failed).
> > > > > > > > > The
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> build
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> log view is a little bit clumsy but it works.
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> Does any of you have any experience with Github
> > > > Actions?
> > > > > > Any
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> thoughts
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> about using it?
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> Best,
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> Tomek
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> On 2019/08/09 13:55:11, Jarek Potiuk <
> > > > > > > > jarek.pot...@polidea.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> FYI: Interesting article about the history
> behind
> > > > > > GitLabCI
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> (featuring
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Kamil, my friend).
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://about.gitlab.com/2019/08/08/built-in-ci-cd-version-control-secret/?fbclid=IwAR2tEfqLaDXTCd1mD6XUZMX7hGYBfZcohPtI2BP3-oK_Yk_EHIXF4zLDixk
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 5, 2019 at 7:14 PM Jarek Potiuk
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> <jarek.pot...@polidea.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Some update on my GitLab experiences so far:
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> TL;DR; I think the POC has shown that we can
> > > fairly
> > > > > > easily
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> replicate
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> the
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> CI in GitLab + Kubernetes. I think i can say -
> > it
> > > > > > > generally
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> works, I
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> can
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> plug it in for master/v1-10-test builds in the
> > > main
> > > > > > > Airflow
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> project
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> for a
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> few weeks to see how it is doing (while I am
> no
> > > > > > holidays)
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> once we
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> see
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> it running and get the support for PRs from
> > GitLab
> > > > we
> > > > > > can
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> switch to
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> it.
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> What do you think ? Should i call a vote or
> just
> > > try
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > set
> > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> up ?
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Some details
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> - I manged to get full working builds in
> > GitLabCI
> > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> kubernetes -
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> without the kubernetes-specific tests yet, but
> > > this
> > > > > > should
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> be
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> rather easy
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> with kind (looking at it next):
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> - Working example here - you can take a look
> and
> > > > > compare
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> UI/how
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> it
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> is to navigate, comparing to Travis etc:
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > https://gitlab.com/Jarek.Potiuk/airflow/pipelines/74625817
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> - Per-job it is a bit slower than Travis so
> far
> > > > (still
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> around 35
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> minutes in total), but I plan to optimise it
> > > > further.
> > > > > I
> > > > > > > can
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> play
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> with
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> memory/cpu settings of individual workers (Got
> > > some
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> reasonable
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> values now),
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> I can use local SSD disk as Docker
> > > storage/logs/etc
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> - I got an approval for 72vCPU quota (up for
> > > initial
> > > > > > 24) -
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> that
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> should
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> let us build 3 builds in parallel
> independently
> > > from
> > > > > > each
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> other.
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> - I managed to get Preemptible nodes working
> (we
> > > > have
> > > > > > > built
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> in
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> retry
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> mechanism in GitLab to work in case of system
> > > > failures
> > > > > > > like
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> that
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> - Current spending with > 120 builds is 40
> USD.
> > We
> > > > > > should
> > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> way
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> below
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> 500 USD/month according to my
> > back-of-the-envelope
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> calculations.
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> Likely
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> well below
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> - The current setup does not use GCR as cache
> > and
> > > > > Kaniko
> > > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> I
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> originally planned. GCR would require custom
> > > > > > > authentication
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> (and
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> easy-to-steal secrets) and Kaniko does not yet
> > > well
> > > > > > handle
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> multi-staging
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> builds (cache does not work
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > https://github.com/GoogleContainerTools/kaniko/issues/682
> > > > > > > ).
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> I
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> updated
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/AIRFLOW/AIP-23+Migrate+out+of+Travis+CI
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> to
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> reflect that.
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> - We only use GCR as mirroring of DockerHub -
> so
> > > > that
> > > > > we
> > > > > > > can
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> have
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> reliable downloads not depending on
> DockerHub's
> > > > > > stability
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> (it has
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> problems
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> sometimes)
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> - All in-all, it's GCP-independent. It could
> be
> > > run
> > > > in
> > > > > > any
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> Kubernetes
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> cluster (some optimisations like local volumes
> > > > > mounting
> > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> docker
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> engine
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> might have GCP-specific assumptions, but
> should
> > be
> > > > > > > generally
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> replicable).
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> - You can take a look at the current source
> code
> > > in
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > https://github.com/potiuk/airflow/commits/test-gitlab-ci
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> - There will be some updates (I will get rid
> of
> > > > custom
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> builder
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> Docker,
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> simplify it a bit and implement kubernetes
> > tests)
> > > -
> > > > > it's
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> mostly
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> some
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> cleanups + removal of Travis-Specific
> variables
> > +
> > > > > > > gitlab.ci
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> yaml
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> with
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> job definitions.
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> J.
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 10:57 AM Jarek Potiuk
> <
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> jarek.pot...@polidea.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> So GitLab already works on automatically
> > running
> > > > > builds
> > > > > > > > from
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> for PRs
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> :).
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Kamil got involved and will be out advocate
> on
> > > it:
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab-ce/issues/65139
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> J.
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Principal Software Engineer
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Phone: +48660796129 <+48%20660%20796%20129>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> pt., 26 lip 2019, 18:12 użytkownik Jarek
> > Potiuk <
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> jarek.pot...@polidea.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> napisał:
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Update: I added appropriate comment in the
> > > GitLab
> > > > CI
> > > > > > > issue
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> about
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> PRs
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> and
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> we are getting attention of Jason Lenny -
> > > director
> > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > Product
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> Management @
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> GitLab. Let's hope they prioritise it
> quickly
> > > > > enough.
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Speaking of potential
> complexity/Maintenance -
> > > in
> > > > > > order
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> alleviate
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> any
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> maintenance worries, I think about setting
> up
> > > the
> > > > > > whole
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> system on
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> GitLab
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> CI + GKE and running it in parallel to
> Travis
> > > for
> > > > > > quite
> > > > > > > > some
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> time
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> (even
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> months) so that we can switch it at any
> time.
> > > Then
> > > > > we
> > > > > > > will
> > > > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> able
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> to tune
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> it according to real use cases and compare
> the
> > > > > > > experience
> > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> both
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> systems.
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Also I am going for holidays in two weeks
> and
> > I
> > > > will
> > > > > > > make
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> sure that
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> there will be someone with GitLab +
> Kubernetes
> > > > > > > experience
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> (from my
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> company)
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> who can take over and make sure there will
> be
> > no
> > > > > > > problems.
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> However
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> I
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> am
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> quite confident :D nothing is going to
> happen
> > > > while
> > > > > I
> > > > > > am
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> away. I
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> would also
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> invite whoever from committers who would
> like
> > to
> > > > > join
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> project
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> and
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> gitlab instance (once I setup POC) to learn
> > and
> > > > see
> > > > > > how
> > > > > > > > easy
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> it is
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> and how
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> maintenance free it is going to be.
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> J.
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 2:56 PM Kamil
> Breguła
> > <
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> kamil.breg...@polidea.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> GKE and its own CI will allow us to solve
> > other
> > > > > > > problems
> > > > > > > > -
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> building
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> and publishing documentation from the
> master
> > > > > branch.
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Currently,
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> building is done using the RTD service.
> > > > > > Unfortunately,
> > > > > > > > our
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> project
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> is
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> too large and often the documentation is
> not
> > > > built
> > > > > > > > > properly.
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > https://readthedocs.org/projects/airflow/builds/
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> We should think about another way to build
> > > > > > > documentation.
> > > > > > > > > In
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> the
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> ideal
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> world, building documentation should use
> the
> > > same
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> environment as
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> checking documentation on CI. Adding this
> > step
> > > to
> > > > > > > Travis
> > > > > > > > > can
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> further
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> reduce our development opportunities.
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Discussion on Slack about it:
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > >
> https://apache-airflow.slack.com/archives/CJ1LVREHX/p1561756652021900
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> It is worth thinking about the fact that
> our
> > > > > project
> > > > > > > will
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> soon
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> have
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> a
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> website and our documentation will also be
> > > > > available
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > many
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> languages. Currently, talks are taking
> place
> > > with
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > design
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> studio
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> and developers who can make these websites
> > ;-)
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/982c7baa06742ad722f2baa0db53ad99aea6c26b14b7d6d4aa522677@%3Cdev.airflow.apache.org%3E
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> We should provide an environment that will
> > > allow
> > > > > you
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> build a
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> website and documentation. At best, these
> > tasks
> > > > > > should
> > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> combined.
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> I
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> hope that we will be able to create a
> website
> > > > that
> > > > > > will
> > > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> real
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> support for the community on current
> events,
> > so
> > > > it
> > > > > > will
> > > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> updated
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> frequently.
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> It seems to me that the project will grow.
> If
> > > we
> > > > > now
> > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> problems
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> with Travis, then the significance of these
> > > > > problems
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> future
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> can
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> only grow. Now we have a chance to provide
> a
> > > > stable
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> infrastructure
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> for
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> the project for a long time.
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> I would like to share another situation
> which
> > > was
> > > > > not
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> pleasant for
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> me.
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Recently I wanted to send >10 PR, but
> because
> > > of
> > > > > > > Travis,
> > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> had to
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> wait
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> for the weekend to send changes. If I would
> > > send
> > > > my
> > > > > > > > changes
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> in a
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> week,
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> I would block the queue for a few hours.
> > > > Although I
> > > > > > did
> > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> over
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> the
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> weekend, I got the message that the queue
> is
> > > > > blocked
> > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Travis by
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> my
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> jobs.
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 6:12 PM Jarek
> Potiuk
> > <
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> jarek.pot...@polidea.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Everyone,
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> I prepared a short docs where I described
> > > > general
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> architecture
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> of
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> the
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> solution I imagine we can deploy fairly
> > > quickly
> > > > -
> > > > > > > having
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> GitLab
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> CI
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> support
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> and Google provided funding for GCP
> > resources.
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> I am going to start working on
> > > Proof-Of-Concept
> > > > > soon
> > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> before
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> I
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> start
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> doing it, I would like to get some
> comments
> > > and
> > > > > > > opinions
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> on the
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> proposed
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> approach. I discussed the basic approach
> > with
> > > my
> > > > > > > friend
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Kamil
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> who
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> works at
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> GitLab and he is a CI maintainer and this
> is
> > > > what
> > > > > we
> > > > > > > > think
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> will
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> be
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> achievable in fairly short time.
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/AIRFLOW/AIP-23+Migrate+out+of+Travis+CI
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> I am happy to discuss details and make
> > changes
> > > > to
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> proposal -
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> we
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> can
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> discuss it here or as comments in the
> > > document.
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Let's see what people think about it and
> if
> > we
> > > > get
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > some
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> consensus
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> we
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> might want to cast a vote (or maybe go via
> > > lasy
> > > > > > > > consensus
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> as
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> this
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> is
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> something we should have rather quickly)
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Looking forward to your comments!
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> J.
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Jarek Potiuk
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Polidea <https://www.polidea.com/> |
> > > Principal
> > > > > > > Software
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> Engineer
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> M: +48 660 796 129 <+48%20660%20796%20129>
> > > > > > > <+48660796129
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> <+48%20660%20796%20129>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Polidea] <
> https://www.polidea.com/>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> --
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Jarek Potiuk
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Polidea <https://www.polidea.com/> |
> > Principal
> > > > > > Software
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Engineer
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> M: +48 660 796 129 <+48%20660%20796%20129>
> > > > > > <+48660796129
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> <+48%20660%20796%20129>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> [image: Polidea] <https://www.polidea.com/>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> --
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Jarek Potiuk
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Polidea <https://www.polidea.com/> |
> Principal
> > > > > Software
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Engineer
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> M: +48 660 796 129 <+48%20660%20796%20129>
> > > > > <+48660796129
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> <+48%20660%20796%20129>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> [image: Polidea] <https://www.polidea.com/>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> --
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Jarek Potiuk
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Polidea <https://www.polidea.com/> | Principal
> > > > > Software
> > > > > > > > > Engineer
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> M: +48 660 796 129 <+48%20660%20796%20129>
> > > > > <+48660796129
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> <+48%20660%20796%20129>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> [image: Polidea] <https://www.polidea.com/>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> --
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> Jarek Potiuk
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> Polidea <https://www.polidea.com/> | Principal
> > > > Software
> > > > > > > > Engineer
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> M: +48 660 796 129 <+48%20660%20796%20129>
> > > > <+48660796129
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> <+48%20660%20796%20129>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> [image: Polidea] <https://www.polidea.com/>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Jarek Potiuk
> > > > > > > > > > Polidea <https://www.polidea.com/> | Principal Software
> > > > Engineer
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > M: +48 660 796 129 <+48660796129>
> > > > > > > > > > [image: Polidea] <https://www.polidea.com/>
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Tomasz Urbaszek
> > > > > > > > > Polidea <https://www.polidea.com/> | Junior Software
> > Engineer
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > M: +48 505 628 493 <+48505628493>
> > > > > > > > > E: tomasz.urbas...@polidea.com <
> tomasz.urbasz...@polidea.com
> > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Unique Tech
> > > > > > > > > Check out our projects! <https://www.polidea.com/our-work>
> > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Jarek Potiuk
> > > > > > > Polidea <https://www.polidea.com/> | Principal Software
> Engineer
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > M: +48 660 796 129 <+48660796129>
> > > > > > > [image: Polidea] <https://www.polidea.com/>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Tomasz Urbaszek
> > > > > > Polidea <https://www.polidea.com/> | Junior Software Engineer
> > > > > >
> > > > > > M: +48 505 628 493 <+48505628493>
> > > > > > E: tomasz.urbas...@polidea.com <tomasz.urbasz...@polidea.com>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Unique Tech
> > > > > > Check out our projects! <https://www.polidea.com/our-work>
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > >
> > > > > Jarek Potiuk
> > > > > Polidea <https://www.polidea.com/> | Principal Software Engineer
> > > > >
> > > > > M: +48 660 796 129 <+48660796129>
> > > > > [image: Polidea] <https://www.polidea.com/>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Tomasz Urbaszek
> > > Polidea <https://www.polidea.com/> | Software Engineer
> > >
> > > M: +48 505 628 493 <+48505628493>
> > > E: tomasz.urbas...@polidea.com <tomasz.urbasz...@polidea.com>
> > >
> > > Unique Tech
> > > Check out our projects! <https://www.polidea.com/our-work>
> > >
> >
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