When should we assume that we've reached a consensus?

T.

On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 12:52 AM Jarek Potiuk <jarek.pot...@polidea.com>
wrote:

> > 1) Do we want to use additional plugins? *Yes*
>
> 2) Do we want to use custom markers? *Yes. They will help with optimising
> > our test execution.*
>
> 3) Do we want to use new assert statement? *Yes*
> > 4) Do we want to remove the inheritance from unittest.TestCase? *No
> > opinion about it. I am ok with both.*
> > 5) Do we want to use class-less tests? *No.*
> > 6) Do we want to use pytest function instead of current? *I don't
> > understand. Can you explain please?*
> > 7) Do we want to use monkeypatch fixture? *No. Mock is better.*
> > 8) Do we want to use the pytest fixtures? *Yes.*
> >
>
> Great that we have this discussion now. I also think we should just agree
> it now and not introduce it "globally".
> Once we do it, we should simply add it together new features we implement.
> We have still pylint to finish as a "non-functional global change" and we
> should not add new one. It's good to continually improve but one thing at a
> time.
>
> BTW Pylint goes well we are down to 243 non-pylint files from 991 since
> May.
>
> J.
>
> On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 12:40 AM Kaxil Naik <kaxiln...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > This is a tough one. Both arguments are reasonable.
> >
> > I agree at some point we should convert all to use assert. But at the
> same
> > time, we should also focus on adding *more user-facing features *and
> spend
> > less time on more refactor or similar changes.
> >
> > So based on that, this might be a low priority. We also need to still
> > complete AIP-21
> > <
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/AIRFLOW/AIP-21%3A+Changes+in+import+paths
> > >
> > which is very critical for 2.0.
> >
> > 1) Do we want to use additional plugins?
> >
> >
> > Yes.
> >
> > 2) Do we want to use custom markers?
> >
> >
> > Not sure yet. Low Priority for me.
> >
> > 3) Do we want to use new assert statement?
> >
> >
> > I think new PRs can contain it, shouldn't be a problem as long as it is
> > documented to avoid confusion.
> >
> > 4) Do we want to remove the inheritance from unittest.TestCase?
> >
> >
> > Yes, this is, however, going to change how people write tests. So someone
> > has to own it as it can become painful with PRs getting merged
> > continuously.
> >
> > 5) Do we want to use class-less tests?
> >
> >
> > No.
> >
> > 6) Do we want to use pytest function instead of current?
> >
> >
> > Yes
> >
> > 7) Do we want to use monkeypatch fixture?
> >
> >
> > I also prefer unittest.mock but open to suggestions.
> > https://github.com/pytest-dev/pytest/issues/4576#issuecomment-449864333
> > has
> > some good comparison on it
> >
> > 8) Do we want to use the pytest fixtures?
> >
> >
> > Yes
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 1, 2020 at 8:07 PM Kamil Breguła <kamil.breg...@polidea.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >     @unittest.skip("demonstrating skipping")
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jan 1, 2020 at 8:37 PM Tomasz Urbaszek <turbas...@apache.org>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > 6) Do we want to use pytest function instead of current?
> > > >
> > > > I do not understand this point, can you explain?
> > > >
> > >
> > > Pytest Introduces solutions that replace solutions that are now used
> > >
> > > For example:
> > > def test_foo(self):
> > >     wtih self.assertRaises(AirflowException):
> > >            bar()
> > >
> > > Can be replaced by following code:
> > >
> > > from pytest import raises
> > >
> > > wtih raises(AirflowException):
> > >     bar()
> > >
> > > OR
> > >
> > > from parametrize import parametrize
> > >
> > > @parametrize.expand([
> > >     (1, 1, ),
> > >     (2, 2, ),
> > > ])
> > > def test_foo(self, param_a, param_b);
> > >     self.assertEqual(param_a, param_b)
> > >
> > > can be replaced by
> > >
> > > @pytest.mark.parametrize("param_a,param_b", [(1, 1), (2, 2),])
> > > def test_eval(param_a, param_b):
> > >     assert param_a == param_b
> > >
> > > OR
> > >
> > > @unittest.skip("demonstrating skipping")
> > > def test_foo(self)
> > >
> > > can be replaced by
> > >
> > > @pytest.mark.skip(reason="demonstrating skipping"))
> > > def test_foo(self)
> > >
> > > Which solution will be better for us?
> > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Jan 1, 2020 at 8:14 PM Kamil Breguła <
> > kamil.breg...@polidea.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > > 1) Do we want to use additional plugins?
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes. We should use the full-power of plugins now.
> > > > >
> > > > > > 2) Do we want to use custom markers?
> > > > >
> > > > > Reply in a separate thread.
> > > > >
> > > > > >3) Do we want to use new assert statement?
> > > > >
> > > > > Reply in a separate thread
> > > > >
> > > > > > 4) Do we want to remove the inheritance from unittest.TestCase?
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes. After dropping support for Airflow 2.0, if possible. I would
> > > prefer to
> > > > > focus on working on new features for Airflow 2.0.
> > > > >
> > > > > > 5) Do we want to use class-less tests?
> > > > >
> > > > > No. Classes allow easy grouping of tests. Even if a file with one
> > > class now
> > > > > exists, a new one may appear in the future.
> > > > >
> > > > > > 6) Do we want to use pytest function instead of current?
> > > > >
> > > > > I feel good about the current functions. However, this is not a
> > serious
> > > > > relationship and I can create a new friendship.
> > > > >
> > > > > > 7) Do we want to use monkeypatch fixture?
> > > > >
> > > > > No. I prefer unittest.mock
> > > > >
> > > > > > 8) Do we want to use the pytest fixtures?
> > > > >
> > > > > No. I prefer classic fixtures, if possible. Their syntax is much
> > > simpler
> > > > > and easier to understand.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Jan 1, 2020 at 8:10 PM Kamil Breguła <
> > > kamil.breg...@polidea.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We have recently migrated to pytest.  Code written according to
> the
> > > > > > standard library - unittest.TestCase is still compatible with
> > pytest.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The AIP-21 document did not discuss the migration of current code
> > to
> > > > > > new features, but only discussed the change of runner and
> benefits
> > of
> > > > > > pytest over nosetets.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Link:
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/AIRFLOW/AIP-27+Migrate+to+pytest
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As far as I appreciate the many advantages of using this tool,
> but
> > I
> > > am
> > > > > > not sure **whether, how or when we want to start using some
> > > features**. I
> > > > > > prefer to keep the current project conventions in many areas,
> but I
> > > still
> > > > > > love pytest. I think we should establish general conventions on
> > > writing
> > > > > > tests and recommended solutions to known problems. I prefer a
> > > pragmatic
> > > > > > approach, not just the use of features, because now we can use
> it.
> > > > > > Unfortunately, I do not see many benefits from new features.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I would not like the code to have many ways of expressing the
> same
> > > > > > solution. For the following reasons:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > * it can introduce a lack of understanding among new contributors
> > > > > >
> > > > > > * facilitate the understanding and reading of code.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > * creates unnecessary discussion about the preferences of one way
> > > over
> > > > > the
> > > > > > other. Not related to changes.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > * forces an understanding of the complex syntax of some
> solutions.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > * encourages people to rewrite the code, which can generate
> > > unnecessary
> > > > > > work.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > To establish a full convention, I have prepared a few questions:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1) Do we want to use additional plugins when there is no function
> > in
> > > the
> > > > > > standard library e.g. flaky marker, forked marker?  This is, in
> my
> > > > > opinion,
> > > > > > one of the big advantages of migrating to pytest.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2) Do we want to use custom markers?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The discussion takes place in a separate thread:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/4538437c96f599766005ba7829d0bee1511debb4f53599e0d300a56f%40%3Cdev.airflow.apache.org%3E
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 3) Do we want to use new assert statement?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/08b64d3b084c865399f98f6c6f56235ce5329e843d97938e1a8045a5%40%3Cdev.airflow.apache.org%3E
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Based on the discussion with devlist, we want to delay migrations
> > to
> > > the
> > > > > > new assert statement.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 4) Do we want to remove inheritance from unittest.TestCase?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 5) Do we want to use class-less tests?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 6) Do we want to use pytest function instead of current?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For example:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Unittest.assertRaises vs pytest.raises
> > > > > >
> > > > > > parametrize vs pytest.mark.parametrize
> > > > > >
> > > > > > unittest.skip[If], vs  pytest.mark.skip[If]
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 7) Do we want to use monkeypatch fixture?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://docs.pytest.org/en/latest/monkeypatch.html
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 8) Do we want to use the pytest fixtures?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Do we want to migrate all code to pytest fixtures?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We are currently using a different style of fixtures. Do we want
> to
> > > give
> > > > > > it up?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> >
> https://docs.python.org/3/library/unittest.html#class-and-module-fixtures
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It is worth asking to think about whether we do not want to
> change
> > > this
> > > > > > convention in the future e.g. after dropping support for 1.10.X.
> We
> > > can
> > > > > > also allow two conventions on a temporary basis, and then migrate
> > to
> > > one
> > > > > at
> > > > > > a later time. For example, we want to migrate to the assert
> > statement
> > > > > after
> > > > > > dropping support for 1.10
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I hope I found the main differences between the current
> convention
> > > and
> > > > > the
> > > > > > new convention. However, if you missed something, please continue
> > to
> > > > > number.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best regards,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kamil
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> >
>
>
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