Ok, my thoughts on assertions.I think carefully used assertions could be occasionally useful for internal checks only. Like you checking all good and raise *your* exception with meaningful message to end user. But in general looks like confusion harm would outweight readability benefit. Just a simple AssertionError would confuse average pythonist as developer expects (and official docs clearly states that) assertion usage in test environment only. There are alternatives that are as readable as assertion. `assert self.futures, NOT_STARTED_MESSAGE` -> `if not self.futures: raise Error(NOT_STARTED_MESSAGE)`
On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 at 09:04, Jarek Potiuk <jarek.pot...@polidea.com> wrote: > Hey @Anton - I think it would be great if (even if you have examples in > Github) add some summary of your thoughts here. I think we should converge > to one place where we discuss it and it's not helpful to move back/forth > between different media. > > The discussion gets interesting :). > > One argument I have for using asserts is to indeed treat them as > "debugging-purpose only" - it's actually pretty much the same as type > annotations. Type annotations are stripped out always when the code is run > so we cannot rely on them, yet they are super helpful in catching problems > and MyPy is really good in catching some mis-uses of flexibility of python > typing. And we are already using it. > > I think one of the issues (also mentioned by XD) is the "blur boundary". > Indeed we have some asserts now (some introduced by me :)) that are not > good for asserts but I think it's one more reason to agree some common > ground here and (if we decide that sometimes assertions are helpful and > recommended) to have clear rules describing where to use them. > > *Good examples:* > > This is a very good example where asserts are much clearer than if/throw in > my opinion. It's a programming error if end () is run without start(). And > if asserts are stripped-out we got the "None" exceptions two lines down. > > def end(self) -> None: > """ > Ends the executor. > :return: > """ > assert self.impl, NOT_STARTED_MESSAGE > assert self.manager, NOT_STARTED_MESSAGE > self.impl.end() > self.manager.shutdown() > > Another good example of decorator for CLI methods (maybe the first assert > should have a meaningful message though). > > @functools.wraps(f) > def wrapper(*args, **kwargs): > """ > An wrapper for cli functions. It assumes to have Namespace instance > at 1st positional argument > > :param args: Positional argument. It assumes to have Namespace instance > at 1st positional argument > :param kwargs: A passthrough keyword argument > """ > assert args > assert isinstance(args[0], Namespace), \ > "1st positional argument should be argparse.Namespace instance, " \ > "but {}".format(args[0]) > > Another good example: the project_id comes from the decorators and will > always be set to some value even if it is specified as Optional. If it is > not set in the environment, the object will never be instantiated in the > first place. > > @_fallback_to_project_id_from_variables > @GoogleCloudBaseHook.fallback_to_default_project_id > def is_job_dataflow_running(self, name: str, variables: Dict, > project_id: Optional[str] = None) -> bool: > """ > Helper method to check if jos is still running in dataflow > > :param name: The name of the job. > :type name: str > :param variables: Variables passed to the job. > :type variables: dict > :param project_id: Optional, the GCP project ID in which to start a > job. > If set to None or missing, the default project_id from the GCP > connection is used. > :return: True if job is running. > :rtype: bool > """ > assert project_id is not None > > > *Bad examples:* > > This depends on configuration so it should not be assert: > > if cluster_address is None: > cluster_address = conf.get('dask', 'cluster_address') > assert cluster_address, 'Please provide a Dask cluster address in > airflow.cfg' > > This also depends on configuration and should be an exception:: > > executor_path = executor_name.split('.') > assert len(executor_path) == 2, f"Executor {executor_name} not supported: > " \ > f"please specify in format > plugin_module.executor" > > J. > > > On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 2:37 AM Deng Xiaodong <xd.den...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > -1 from me for using asserts in Airflow code. > > > > Firstly, as some folks pointed out, asserts are there mainly for > debugging > > purposes. > > > > Second, even though using asserts may bring some benefits in specific > > context, it’s not enough to “break even” comparing with the potential > > confusions (e.g. blur boundary between when to use and when NOT to use > > asserts over raising exceptions). > > > > > > XD > > > > On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 06:17 Anton Zayniev <anton.zayn...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > Email is not so good for code examples, so I've shared my thoughts here > > > <https://github.com/apache/airflow/pull/6596/files#r353451761>. > > > > > > On Tue, 3 Dec 2019 at 16:53, Jarek Potiuk <jarek.pot...@polidea.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Just an example of such asserts which IMHO are nicer are here: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/airflow/pull/6596/files#diff-4c0c36f193f2cd65e2b55ba3102c1ba2R38 > > > > One line assert with message. > > > > > > > > J. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 5:36 PM Anton Zayniev < > anton.zayn...@gmail.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi, guys. I'm really surprised about this > > > > > > > > > > > - (+) asserts look nicer and are more readable than if > (something): > > > > > > throw Exception() > > > > > > > > > > I'm pretty sure that all the code I have encountered a way more > > > readable > > > > > using "if/else" or "try/except". But may be it is just me. Could > you > > > > > provide an example of code which is better with "assert"? > > > > > > > > > > - (+) asserts are especially good for cases like None exception - > > they > > > > > > add more developer friendly messages when they will fail a few > > > lines > > > > > > below > > > > > > with (for example) None has no property "dag". But it's ok if > > > those > > > > > get > > > > > > optimised away. > > > > > > > > > > I think the best way to catch None is to ensure your code would > fail > > > > > conveniently. Like raising understandable Exception message, if you > > > > believe > > > > > that should be a point of confusion. > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 3 Dec 2019 at 16:22, Iuliia Volkova <xnuins...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hi everyone, I'm usually not write anything in this mail list, > but > > > this > > > > > > theme something really strange > > > > > > Exist offissial doc: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://docs.python.org/3/reference/simple_stmts.html#the-assert-statement > > > > > > > > > > > > and there is a key information: Assert statements are a > convenient > > > way > > > > to > > > > > > insert debugging assertions into a program. > > > > > > > > > > > > *Debugging. * - this is a key propose of asserts keyword. > > > > > > > > > > > > there is no any type of possible asserts that cannot be done with > > > > normal > > > > > > Exceptions and Errors types that more explicit and detailed when > > > > > 'assert' - > > > > > > you have ValueError, TyperError and etc. what kind of problems > must > > > > > solved > > > > > > DEBUG tools in production code that can be easily turned off on > > > servers > > > > > by > > > > > > users? > > > > > > > > > > > > asserts used in tests and in process of debug code, not in > > production > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 6:47 PM Jarek Potiuk < > > > jarek.pot...@polidea.com> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > We had a few discussions about using asserts in our code. I > > pasted > > > > some > > > > > > > links below but wanted to extract a gist of it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here are the comments summarised: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - (+) asserts look nicer and are more readable than if > > > > (something): > > > > > > > throw Exception() > > > > > > > - (-) asserts can be optimized away with -O flag so we > should > > > not > > > > > > based > > > > > > > any real logic on having them > > > > > > > - (+) asserts are good in cases that can happen in > development > > > but > > > > > > > should "never happen" in reality > > > > > > > - (+) asserts are especially good for cases like None > > exception > > > - > > > > > they > > > > > > > add more developer friendly messages when they will fail a > few > > > > lines > > > > > > > below > > > > > > > with (for example) None has no property "dag". But it's ok > if > > > > those > > > > > > get > > > > > > > optimised away. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We would like to discuss those points in community and have a > > > > > community - > > > > > > > driven decision on: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) whether we should use asserts? > > > > > > > 2) in which cases > > > > > > > 3) in which cases we should NOT use asserts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > J. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The links here: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Slack Discussion: > > > > > > > > > > > > https://apache-airflow.slack.com/archives/CCQ7EGB1P/p1575364664041300 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Github threads: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > https://github.com/apache/airflow/pull/6596#discussion_r352916409 > > > > > > > - > > > > https://github.com/apache/airflow/pull/6596#discussion_r352914727 > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/airflow/pull/3690#pullrequestreview-143376629 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stack overflow link for asserts: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - https://stackoverflow.com/a/1838411/5691525 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > J. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jarek Potiuk > > > > > > > Polidea <https://www.polidea.com/> | Principal Software > Engineer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > M: +48 660 796 129 <+48660796129> > > > > > > > [image: Polidea] <https://www.polidea.com/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > _________ > > > > > > > > > > > > С уважением, Юлия Волкова > > > > > > Тел. : +7 (911) 116-71-82 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Jarek Potiuk > > > > Polidea <https://www.polidea.com/> | Principal Software Engineer > > > > > > > > M: +48 660 796 129 <+48660796129> > > > > [image: Polidea] <https://www.polidea.com/> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Jarek Potiuk > Polidea <https://www.polidea.com/> | Principal Software Engineer > > M: +48 660 796 129 <+48660796129> > [image: Polidea] <https://www.polidea.com/> >