On 8/20/21 1:44 AM, Kai Engert wrote:
Hello Bob,

you didn't say which ESR version your report is about. Is it about the old ESR 78, or the new ESR 91?

It seems old ESR 78 didn't have any changes recently.

The most recent changes to new ESR 91 were:

- use NSS 3.68 on 2021-07-13

https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-esr91/log/tip/security/nss/TAG-INFO

- use of NSPR 4.32 on 2021-07-13
https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-esr91/log/tip/nsprpub/TAG-INFO

I don't see any changes to NSPR/NSS in ESR 91 after it was released.

I was 91. There wasn't an announcement on this list. I picked up 3.67 on June 17, and completed the resulting builds on July 6. This change was made 1 week after I was developement complete for the NSS portion of our Rebase. QA for all our platforms are finishing this week (completed last week for RHEL 9/RHEL 8). Changing base requirements for Firefox ESR this late means we can only fail to meet any ESR schedules. As you know it take time to pick up rebases, as well as meet all our internal deadlines. July 13 is way too late for us to handle this kind of change to ESR.

There are a lot of more reasons why it's extremely expensive for us to move to NSS 3.68 on RHEL. What I need now is permission to ship our ESR with NSS 3.67 (frankly I'm hosed if I don't get that).

NSPR 4.32 may be less of an issue, but I'll need to know this week and many decisions makers or on PTO.


The above changes were done prior to the ESR 91 beta date.

Can you please clarify which of the above changes was problematic for you, and why?

Moving ESR 91 to NSS 3.68 is highly problematic for us. In the future I'd like to be in any of those discussions, particularly. ESR is a big deal and big cost, we can't take last minute major revision bumps, particularly in NSS.


Furthermore, you are responding to an email about the NSS 3.69 release. ESR 91 doesn't use that, it's on NSS 3.68.

yes, it was just a convenience. This has nothing to do with NSS 3.69, other than the fact we never actually announced NSS 3.68 on this list (which makes it even more problematic that we make it a requirement for ESR 91.


bob


https://kuix.de/mozilla/versions/

Kai




On 18.08.21 19:29, Robert Relyea wrote:
On 8/8/21 10:12 PM, Martin Thomson wrote:
Network Security Services (NSS) 3.69 was released on 5 August 2021.

The HG tag is NSS_3_69_RTM. NSS 3.69 requires NSPR 4.32 or newer.


Hey, was there a bump in the version requirements on NSS for ESR? This
is a serious problem for us. It takes us a month or so go get new
versions of NSS through our release process, so we need that runway
before we can pick up a new version of NSS. Dumping new requirements of
ESR makes it impossible for us to really plan that landing, as well as
makes it impossible to meet our new ESR release requirements before the
old ESR runs out.

Do you know what requirements forced the bump. Can we get dispensation
to release with the older version of NSS. Also I'm not seeing a release
announcement for NSS 3.68, so there's no record of what the changes were.

Please, in the future, do not pick up new version of NSS into ESR once
the schedule is made. It's better for us to pick up individual fixes
than rebase to a new version, and if you need to, please give us lots of
warning.

Thanks,


bob




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