Hi,

I'd like to provide Mozilla IoT <https://iot.mozilla.org/> team feedback on
this charter, the content of which has already been modified slightly based
on our earlier feedback <https://github.com/w3c/wot/issues/873> to the
Working Group during the drafting stages.

We are happy overall with the contents of the charter and recommend
approving it (with comment), but the Working Group are aware that we still
have reservations in some areas, which we would like to note.

We would like to join the WoT Working Group under its new charter (we are
already members of the Interest Group, but made a formal objection
<https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-archive/2016Oct/0004.html> to the
previous charter for the Working Group in 2016). Our comments on the new
charter are as follows.

We welcome the "interoperability profiles" and "discovery" work items which
we hope may improve interoperability by defining a common cross-domain
default protocol binding, and we note the progress which has been made with
regard to privacy and security considerations.

We still have some areas of concern around the scope of the charter,
specifically:

   1. The work item to continue to define protocol bindings for non-web
   protocols makes the scope unreasonably large and makes ad-hoc
   interoperability very challenging
   2. Thing Description Templates are an unnecessary complication and
   overlap in use cases with interoperability profiles and capability schemas
   defined through semantic annotations
   3. We think that the WoT Architecture specification should really be a
   non-normative note in order to reduce the number of normative
   specifications needed for implementers
   4. Non-normative deliverables for WoT Scripting, Management and
   Packaging also have the potential to unnecessarily increase scope further
   in future and could benefit from further incubation in the WoT Interest
   Group rather than being Working Group deliverables

However, we have found the core Thing Description specification produced by
the Working Group to be very useful and have implemented a (modified
version of) this specification in Mozilla's IoT platform
<https://iot.mozilla.org/> which has now been in production for two years.
We have gradually been converging our implementation with the Working
Group's specification over time. We would therefore like to support the
continued work of this Working Group to further improve that specification.

On Tue, 3 Dec 2019 at 14:59, L. David Baron <dba...@dbaron.org> wrote:

> The W3C is proposing a revised charter for:
>
>   Web of Things Working Group
>   https://www.w3.org/2019/11/proposed-wot-wg-charter-2019.html
>   https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-new-work/2019Nov/0005.html
>
> The differences from the previous charter are:
>
> https://services.w3.org/htmldiff?doc1=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2016%2F12%2Fwot-wg-2016.html&doc2=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2019%2F11%2Fproposed-wot-wg-charter-2019.html
>
> Mozilla has the opportunity to send comments or objections through
> Tuesday, December 17.
>
> Please reply to this thread if you think there's something we should
> say as part of this charter review, or if you think we should
> support or oppose it.
>
> -David
>
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