On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 12:10 PM Zibi Braniecki (Gandalf) < zbranie...@mozilla.com> wrote:
> Hi all, > > tl;dr: Please use Fluent instead of adding or changing existing DTD > strings. > This is so awesome! Congratulations to everybody who made the new system possible! Nick > > == DTD and Fluent == > > DTD has been used as the core localization format and API inside of > Firefox since the dawn of Mozilla, allowing us to localize our XUL and > other XML files. > > Unfortunately, DTD comes with a set of quite painful limitations, > including the so called Yellow Screen of Death which causes a crash at > startup and requires a complicated manual process by each user to recover. > We’ve recently been affected by this on beta [1]. > > For a couple years now, we’ve been working on a replacement for DTD - a > new localization system called Fluent [2] which (among other things) > addresses the shortcomings of DTD. > > == Deprecating DTD for localization in browser chrome == > > Now that Fluent meets the performance requirements to replace DTD, we > would like to deprecate the DTD file format as a localization mechanism in > Firefox. > > Please could you: > > 1. > > Avoid introducing any new DTD strings in mozilla-central. > 2. > > If existing DTD strings would need to be changed, migrate them to > Fluent [3] instead of updating the message identifier in DTD. > > > There are a few small areas where integrating Fluent is not entirely > trivial (most notably UA widgets) and those will be exempted from the > deprecation. > > In case you believe there are technical reasons to continue using DTD in > your project, please consult fluent-reviewers group [4], which has been > recently extended with additions of Jared Wein, Gijs Kruitbosch and Edward > Lee. They can be reached in #fluent on Slack or fluent-reviewers on > phabricator. > > The change does not affect release or beta uplifts, since we don’t change > strings in those. ESR uplifts will be exempted from the deprecation. > > == Dashboard == > > In order to visualize our progress, we recently updated our dashboard: > https://arewefluentyet.com/ > > The new version introduces three milestones: > > M1 - Removal of DTD from browser.xhtml - addresses Yellow Screen of Death > [5] > > M2 - Migration of the startup path to Fluent [6] > > Mx - Migration of the whole mozilla-central to Fluent [7] > > Additional milestones may be added as we identify them. > > Each one of these milestones will enable a set of new features for > Firefox, and deprecating DTD for localization is aiming to help us achieve > them sooner. > > > If you have any questions, let me know! > > Cheers, > > zb. > > [1] > https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/d5wq0z/firefox_crashes_on_browser_startup_and_flashes/ > > > [2] https://firefox-source-docs.mozilla.org/intl/l10n/l10n/index.html > > [3] > https://firefox-source-docs.mozilla.org/intl/l10n/l10n/fluent_migrations.html > > [4] fluent-reviewers group (#fluent on Slack): > > - > > Francesco Lodolo > - > > Jared Wein > - > > Gijs Kruitbosch > - > > Edward Lee > - > > Axel Hecht > - > > Staś Małolepszy > - > > Zibi Braniecki > > [5] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1579477 > > [6] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1501881 > > [7] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1581212 > _______________________________________________ > firefox-dev mailing list > firefox-...@mozilla.org > https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/firefox-dev > _______________________________________________ dev-platform mailing list dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-platform
