On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 6:29 PM, Jonathan Kingston <j...@mozilla.com> wrote:
>> But this vector is not realistic. The website _included_ the thirdparty.
>> They want this tracking to occur. If we blocked invisible login forms from
>> autofill - the website will make the forms unobtrusively visible so they get
>> autofilled.
>
> Do we know this? My understanding was most research suggested trackers use
> every technique possible that go undetected. If these scripts then obviously
> degrade user experience then users complain to the site owner.
> These scripts could already do many malicious things anyway.

Well, there are already websites that stick an unobtrusive login form
in the top header of the site; if my intention was to track users by
getting around a browser defense that blocked my tracking, and that
could do it, I think it'd be easy for me to integrate that design.
Just conjecture.

>> We can disable autofill - but that kind of sucks from a usability
>> standpoint,
>
> Given we disable this on HTTP pages and also behave differently with CC and
> address autofill; why should this have a different experience?

I think I missed that we already disable autofill on HTTP...

>> Maybe there's a compromise. Assume we can detect _when_ a user submits a
>> login form that we have autofill data for*.
>
> I think this makes it much more confusing to be honest.

Definitely more complicated. I think the average user experience would
remain unchanged though, since most users aren't clearing history in
their (non-PBM) browser.

-tom
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