Following up to myself: if the plan is really that people will have a
single identity that they then present to everyone and that claims hang
off, I think W3C should not standardize that.

-Ekr


On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 8:48 AM, Eric Rescorla <e...@rtfm.com> wrote:

> I took a quick look at this material and it's very hard to tell what the
> actual privacy properties are:
>
> "From a privacy perspective it is important that information that is
> intended to remain private is handled appropriately. Maintaining the trust
> of a verifiable claims ecosystem is important. Verifiable claims technology
> defined by this group should not disclose private details of the
> participants' identity or other sensitive information unless required for
> operational purposes, by legal or jurisdictional rules, or when
> deliberately consented to (e.g. as part of a request for information) by
> the holder of the information. The design of any data model and syntax(es)
> should guard against the unwanted leakage of such data."
>
> But then when I read their architecture, I see:
> "In order for Jane (Holder and Subject) to have information assigned to
> her, she must get an identifier (Subject Identifier)."
>
> Which makes it sound like this is going to leak a huge amount of tracking
> information (effectively being an identity credential with attributes
> attached). There has been a huge amount of work on using crypto to allow
> you to prove specific claims without information leakage (cf.
> https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/project/u-prove/), but this
> doesn't seem to reflect any of it, rather opting for a much  more naive
> design which is going to have much worse privacy properties. Is that really
> the intent here?
>
> -Ekr
>
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 6:17 PM, L. David Baron <dba...@dbaron.org> wrote:
>
>> The W3C is proposing a new charter for:
>>
>>   Verifiable Claims Working Group
>>   https://www.w3.org/2017/vc/charter
>>   https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-new-work/2016Dec/0003.html
>>
>> Mozilla has the opportunity to send comments or objections through
>> Sunday, January 15, 2017.
>>
>> Please reply to this thread if you think there's something we should
>> say as part of this charter review, or if you think we should
>> support or oppose it.
>>
>> -David
>>
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