Bernie,

You're right that the current WD does not contain the "U2F HID token"
attestation format, but the WG is _intending_ to add it [1] -- and support
for such devices -- in Working Draft 4 [2] as soon as a larger in-document
refactor is complete.

I won't guarantee success at this point, but I believe it likely that
WebAuthn will ultimately support most fielded U2F HID-compliant devices.

[1] https://github.com/w3c/webauthn/issues/214
[2] https://github.com/w3c/webauthn/milestone/8

Cheers!
J.C.



On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 4:36 PM, <berniepa...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Le vendredi 11 novembre 2016 22:18:58 UTC+1, JC Jones a écrit :
> > The W3C Web Authentication Working Group [1] was formed to produce a
> > browser-facing standard for using strong, cryptographic scoped
> credentials
> > to authenticate to web applications in an un-phishable way. The Working
> > Group began working from specifications produced by the FIDO Alliance,
> but
> > through the W3C process ensured there was a web-focus to the final
> result.
> >
> > We have been tracking the Web Authentication standard since last year’s
> > FIDO U2F announcement [2],  and we believe Web Authentication provides a
> > valuable augmentation to web application security in an inclusive way. We
> > are proposing to implement the current draft specification for Web
> > Authentication [3], and then track the evolution through to its final
> > Recommendation state.
> >
> > Background: The Mozilla Foundation joined the FIDO Alliance to support
> the
> > work of providing augmented security to user logins across the Web. We
> > encouraged FIDO to evolve their browser specifications within the W3C, to
> > enable larger community involvement than simply Alliance members. This
> > specification is a result of that wider effort.
> >
> > Web Authentication defines a way to use credentials from a secure element
> > to authenticate to web applications using public key cryptography. As
> with
> > FIDO U2F, the browser’s role is mainly to provide the interface between
> the
> > secure element (such as a USB dongle) and the web application, and to
> > enforce a scoped security model to bind the resulting attestation to the
> > specific web application.
> >
> > Web Authentication support is currently in development for Microsoft Edge
> > [4] [5]. Google Chrome’s support is also in-development.  Several
> websites
> > have deployed support for U2F, the predecessor to WebAuthn, including
> > Gmail, Dropbox, and Github. Additionally, there are many U2F devices in
> use
> > today which will function with the Web Authentication API.
> >
> > Proposed: To implement the Web Authentication API, with support for the
> USB
> > U2F HID token attestation format.
> >
> > Please send comments on this proposal to the list no later than 21
> November
> > 2016.
> >
> > [1] https://www.w3.org/blog/webauthn/
> >
> > [2] https://groups.google.com/d/msg/mozilla.dev.platform/
> > IVGEJnQW3Uo/Eu5tvyLmCgAJ
> >
> > [3] https://www.w3.org/TR/webauthn/
> >
> > [4] https://blogs.windows.com/msedgedev/2016/04/12/a-world-
> > without-passwords-windows-hello-in-microsoft-edge/#XKWsxS6PwLOtBYrG.97
> >
> > [5] https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/
> platform/status/
> > webauthenticationapi/?q=webauth
> >
> > - J.C., Crypto Engineering
>
> Hi,
>
> the company I am working for is a small member of the the FIDO alliance.
> We are offering our own U2F USB HID tokens (and soon U2F BLE devices...)
>
> As far as I know, there are still several debates inside the Alliance but
> until recently it was never clearly stated that present U2F tokens/devices
> will be compatible with the next W3C WebAuthN (I rather understood the
> contrary as thre was nothing about this point inside the public w3C drafts)
>
> So, do you have new/other information to back your proposition :
> "Proposed: To implement the Web Authentication API, with support for the
> USB
> U2F HID token attestation format."
>
> Did I miss something ? (that's possible, communication is kind of messy
> inside the Alliance...)
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