For the record, I have reviewed the HTML5.1 changes:

https://www.w3.org/TR/2016/PR-html51-20160915/changes.html#changes

which are in themselves not the easiest to review, filed this accordingly:
https://github.com/w3c/html/issues/592

In addition to that editorial request, the one technically
objectionable change I found in HTML 5.1 is the re-addition of 'rev'.
I have commented on the issue that was used to add 'rev' back to HTML
5.1 accordingly with reasons for why that was a mistake (and should
have never happened - might be exposing process issues that I may have
to deal with separately)

https://github.com/w3c/html/issues/256#issuecomment-253674835

Other than that, I would re-emphasize Annevk's post:

https://annevankesteren.nl/2016/01/film-at-11

Which covers higher-level problems with HTML5.1, most of which are as
of yet unaddressed.

I believe this is sufficient to file a nonformal objection with those
two points (technical: drop rev, overall: HTML5.1 problematic as a
whole).

Thanks,

Tantek



On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 3:45 PM, L. David Baron <dba...@dbaron.org> wrote:
> On Wednesday 2016-10-12 11:22 -0400, Chris Hutten-Czapski wrote:
>> Can you provide any details (either inline, or a sampling of links) to
>> summarize the broader concerns that might not be encapsulated in the
>> document itself?
>
> Some links:
> https://annevankesteren.nl/2016/01/film-at-11
> https://github.com/w3c/html/issues/507
>
> -David
>
>
>> On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 9:46 PM, L. David Baron <dba...@dbaron.org> wrote:
>> > A W3C Proposed Recommendation is available for the membership of W3C
>> > (including Mozilla) to vote on, before it proceeds to the final
>> > stage of being a W3C Recomendation:
>> >
>> >   HTML 5.1
>> >   W3C TR draft: https://www.w3.org/TR/html/
>> >   W3C Editor's draft: https://w3c.github.io/html/
>> >   deadline: Thursday, October 13, 2016
>> >
>> > If there are comments you think Mozilla should send as part of the
>> > review, please say so in this thread.  (I'd note, however, that
>> > there have been many previous opportunities to make comments, so
>> > it's somewhat bad form to bring up fundamental issues for the first
>> > time at this stage.)
>> >
>> > Note that this specification is somewhat controversial for various
>> > reasons, mainly related to the forking of the specification from the
>> > WHATWG copy, the quality of the work done on it since the fork, and
>> > some of the particular modifications that have been made since that
>> > fork.
>
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