On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 9:39 AM, Benjamin Smedberg <benja...@smedbergs.us>
wrote:

> I agree that we should drop support for non-SSE2. It mattered 7 years ago
> (see https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=500277) but it really
> doesn't matter now.
>

Wait - are we talking about requiring SSE or SSE2? The thread up to this
point was talking about requiring just SSE, not SSE2. I just want to make
sure we're on the same page since according to mhoye's post the non-SSE2
population is ~25x larger than the non-SSE population...


>
> We do need to avoid updating these users to a build that will crash, and
> do the same "unsupported" messaging we're doing for old versions of MacOS.
> Gregory, will you own that? You will probably need to add CPU feature
> detection to the update URL/params for 47, or use some kind of system addon
> to shunt these users off the main update path.
>

Given that 47 is in Beta, is it too late/risky to make this change on that
channel? Should we revert to VS2013 on Aurora/48 and make the updater
modifications on that channel? I think this will have minimal negative
impact, as most of the impact to changing toolchains would be on central,
as that is where most developers and automation live.


>
> On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 10:10 AM, Mike Hoye <mh...@mozilla.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2016-05-06 12:26 AM, Gregory Szorc wrote:
>>
>>> FWIW, the crashes we've seen so far are from incorrectly emitted movss
>>> instructions. This instruction is part of the original SSE instruction
>>> set,
>>> which was initially unveiled by Intel on the Pentium 3 in 1999 and later
>>> by
>>> AMD on the Duron and Athlon XP in 2000-2001. I'm not sure why we still
>>> need
>>> Firefox to run on processors manufactured in the 90s.
>>>
>> Per an IRC conversation with chutten, Firefox users on CPUs that do not
>> support SSE are 0.015% of our user base. (compared to 0.4% for no-SSE2). A
>> third of those are on otherwise-unsupported configurations (pre-SP3 XP,
>> etc), this work provides continuity of support to 0.01% of our users.
>>
>> - mhoye
>>
>>
>> 09:59 <chutten> So, to put it clearly and precisely, of the Firefox
>> Population in release and beta who are reporting at least base telemetry
>> collection on machines running supported configurations, only 0.01% cannot
>> definitively say they have SSE.
>> 10:00 <chutten> (according to a 1% random sample as stored in the
>> longitudinal dataset)
>>
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