On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 1:39 PM, Jonathan Kew <jfkth...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 28/4/16 18:11, Jeff Muizelaar wrote: > >> Do we use any of the OS specific parts of ICU? >> > > I don't know. > > But even if we don't, I suspect that once they drop support for XP / 10.6, > it won't be long before the project as a whole becomes increasingly > difficult to build for those targets, as it'll start assuming support for > compiler and/or runtime library features that aren't readily available > there. > True, but ICU project but more willing to compromise on things like that compared to the OS functionality mentioned below. -Jeff On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 1:00 PM, Jonathan Kew <jfkth...@gmail.com >> <mailto:jfkth...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> We make considerable (and growing) use of ICU for various aspects of >> i18n support in Gecko.† >> >> The ICU project is proposing to drop support for Windows XP and OS X >> 10.6 in version 58; I guess this will be released sometime shortly >> after Unicode 9.0, which is due to appear in June. >> >> Markus (in the message forwarded below) mentions October 2016; I >> assume that's when they expect to end support for ICU 57. >> >> So we need to decide how we're going to respond to this. Some >> options for consideration: >> >> (a) Adopt ICU 58 when released, and drop Gecko support for WinXP and >> OSX 10.6. >> >> (b) Keep Gecko on ICU 57 and Unicode 8.0 until .... when? AFAIK, we >> have not made any firm decisions regarding EOL for Firefox on these >> platforms. >> >> (c) Keep Gecko on ICU 57 code, but update its data files to support >> Unicode 9.0. This would take some effort on our side, though >> _probably_ not very much. >> >> (d) Push back against the ICU proposal to drop these platforms, and >> see if we can convince them to delay it. (No guarantees, though at >> least they're asking. If we had a specific end date to propose, I'd >> guess that might help our case.) >> >> In the case of either (b) or (c), we'd also need to take >> responsibility for handling any critical security issues that are >> discovered that affect the no-longer-maintained version we'd be >> shipping (e.g. by backporting fixes from the latest upstream version). >> >> >> Thoughts? >> >> JK >> >> >> † Except on Android, where we maintain separate code to support some >> features; others are simply missing. >> >> >> -------- Forwarded Message -------- >> Subject: Re: [icu-design] [icu-support] Drop Windows XP and >> OSX 10.6 >> support >> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2016 08:55:55 -0700 >> From: Markus Scherer <markus....@gmail.com >> <mailto:markus....@gmail.com>> >> To: icu-design <icu-des...@lists.sourceforge.net >> <mailto:icu-des...@lists.sourceforge.net>> >> CC: ICU support mailing list <icu-supp...@lists.sourceforge.net >> <mailto:icu-supp...@lists.sourceforge.net>>, >> Jonathan Kew <jonat...@jfkew.plus.com <mailto:jonat...@jfkew.plus.com >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 4:30 PM, Steven Loomis <s...@icu-project.org >> <mailto:s...@icu-project.org> >> <mailto:s...@icu-project.org <mailto:s...@icu-project.org>>> wrote: >> >> Jonathan and other users, >> Please comment on whether dropping Windows XP for ICU 58 will >> cause significant problems. >> We discussed this for 57 (as per below) but no code changes >> were made. >> >> >> For ICU 57, we were just thinking of removing some Windows XP-specific >> synchronization code. We decided to just keep that for 57. >> >> For ICU 58, we are looking at switching more code over to Windows >> Vista/7/8 APIs because Windows XP and Windows Server 2003 only support >> i18n APIs with LCID parameters and cannot support some languages at >> all. >> Newer Windows versions added APIs that take language tag strings. This >> is important for an i18n library on a major platform... >> >> For how long do you plan to support Windows XP past October 2016? >> Could >> you stay on ICU 57/CLDR 29/Unicode 8 until you stop supporting >> Windows XP? >> >> Also, Windows Vista seems to have very low market share and seems to >> be >> getting dropped by vendors around the same time they drop XP. >> Is it ok to skip Vista and set Windows 7 as the new base for ICU 58? >> >> Best regards, >> markus >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dev-platform mailing list >> dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org <mailto:dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org >> > >> https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-platform >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ dev-platform mailing list dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-platform
