On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 8:51 PM, Benjamin Smedberg <benja...@smedbergs.us>
wrote:

>
>
> On 3/12/2016 7:19 PM, Gabor Krizsanits wrote:
>
>>
>> Seems like a tough decision for such a short time...  There were some
>> great
>> points on both sides so far, but I'm missing the math. To evaluate the
>> cost/benefit for a decision like this we should be able to estimate how
>> much engineering time does it take for us to gain 1.2% new users and how
>> much does it cost to keep the support. My personal estimation for the
>> first
>> is pretty high :(
>>
>
> The math is pretty striking: the problem is not so much about user
> acquisition but about retention and user engagement. We have no problem
> getting new Firefox users: we still have amazingly high brand recognition
> and get many downloads. In terms of retention, what kind of engineering
> effort do we need to do to keep users one, two, four, eight weeks after
> they've tried Firefox? In terms of ongoing engagement, the Firefox product
> strategy has us measuring and optimizing how many days (per week) Firefox
> users use Firefox.
>
> Our basic product strategy is that by focusing our engineering efforts on
> engagement/retention of new users, we'll end up in a much better spot, both
> in terms of overall product quality and our position in the market, than if
> we focus on keeping small cohorts of existing users. That tradeoff of
> existing users for new-user engagement is driving our strategy with e10s,
> extensions, and other engineering priorities, and is the basis for this
> decision.
>
> --BDS
>

Thanks for the explanation that makes perfect sense to me. By the way since
the questions is never if we drop support for a system but when do we do
it, would it make sense to track / measure of how much work went into
maintaining a particular system in the last x month (or will be in the next
month like in the e10s case)? I guess that data would help to make this
decision easier and with less debates (although there are ofc always
exceptional cases for fundamental releases like e10s).

- Gabor
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