DevTools does something like this with UserVoice. I don't think we should get rid of voting unless we replace it with something else (UserVoice is a good alternative).
There are plenty of people that recommend others to "vote" on bugs that they want prioritized, and us removing voting will make it look to the outsider that Mozilla is becoming more "closed". Cheers, Jared On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 2:13 PM, Steve Fink <[email protected]> wrote: > I agree. While it is certainly true that prioritizing work based on how > many noisy people are campaigning for it is not a good idea, I reject the > notion that the only useful goal here is to prevent bugspam, as that > implies that user input is worthless. > > "me too"/+1 comments on bugs are clearly not the way to collect user > input. Votes aren't a whole lot better. input.mozilla.org is good for > certain things, but the SNR is too low to use it raw and the cost of > meaningful processing is high. > > If I were to handwave up a new mechanism to replace bug comments + voting, > I'd probably want a feature/bug page with > > - upvote/downvote counts (3 vs 100 is useful information, even if it > doesn't decide anything on its own) > - list of *distinct* reasons for wanting it > - counterarguments and data (eg web compat info) > - pointer to the appropriate discussion forum and threads > > The idea is that if someone merely wants to support a feature request but > doesn't have any new arguments for why, they can upvote it and be done. But > if someone *does* have a novel argument, they can add it to the list. Or > expand/clarify an existing reason instead of just appending. > > Come to think of it, that sounds like a wiki talk page with a fixed > format. Perhaps we could just throw up a template page on wiki.m.o and find > a good namespace for these, and redirect voters there? > > > On 06/11/2015 10:22 AM, Michael Verdi wrote: > >> Here's something to consider. I've seen my friend Jen Simmons encourage >> people to use voting as a way to tell us that it's important to them for >> Firefox to support a particular html or css feature. Here's a recent >> example https://twitter.com/jensimmons/status/601184865732534272 - the >> bug >> mentioned has 41 votes on it. I just did a little looking around and other >> than adding a comment to the relevant bug the only other method of giving >> us feedback seems to be to dump it in >> https://input.mozilla.org/feedback/firefox >> >> Maybe it's moot because we're not influenced by votes but if you're not a >> mozilla insider how do express support for something without spamming the >> bug? >> >> - Michael >> >> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 11:33 AM, Gervase Markham <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> On 09/06/15 23:07, Mark Côté wrote: >>> >>>> I would ask, then, what the purpose of the feature is. If we know it >>>> isn't used to make decisions, why use it? The only thing I can think of >>>> is as a sort of "spam honeypot", to get people to not "+1" or "me too" >>>> bugs, but this seems strange at best and actively misleading at worst. >>>> >>> It used to do this job extremely well; I have no information on how true >>> that is today, as developers seem rather free to say "actually, we >>> ignore votes"... >>> >>> Gerv >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> dev-platform mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-platform >>> >>> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > dev-platform mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-platform > _______________________________________________ dev-platform mailing list [email protected] https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-platform
