Richard,

Le 13 avr. 2015 à 23:57, Richard Barnes <rbar...@mozilla.com> a écrit :
> There's pretty broad agreement that HTTPS is the way forward for the web.

Yes, but that doesn't make deprecation of HTTP a consensus.

> In order to encourage web developers to move from HTTP to HTTPS, I would
> like to propose establishing a deprecation plan for HTTP without security.

This is not encouragement. This is call forcing. ^_^ Just that we are using the 
right terms for the right thing.


In the document
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IGYl_rxnqEvzmdAP9AJQYY2i2Uy_sW-cg9QI9ICe-ww/edit?usp=sharing

You say:
        Phase 3: Essentially all of the web is HTTPS.  

I understand this is the last hypothetical step, but it sounds like a bit let's 
move the Web to XML. It didn't work out very well.

I would love to have a more secure Web, but this can not happen without a few 
careful consideration.

* Third tier person for certificates being mandatory is a no-go. It creates a 
system of authority and power, an additional layer of hierarchy which deeply 
modify the ability for anyone to publish and might in some circumstances 
increase the security risk.

* If we have to rely, cost of certificates must be zero. These for the simple 
reason than not everyone is living in a rich industrialized country.

* Setup and publication through HTTPS should be as easy as HTTP. The Web 
brought a publishing power to any individuals. Imagine cases where you need to 
create a local network, web developing on your computer, hacking a server for 
your school, community, etc. If it relies on a heavy process, it will not 
happen.


So instead of a plan based on technical features, I would love to see a: "Let's 
move to a secure Web. What are the user scenarios, we need to solve to achieve 
that."

These user scenarios are economical, social, etc.


my 2 cents.
So yes, but not the way it is introduced and plan now.


-- 
Karl Dubost, Mozilla
http://www.la-grange.net/karl/moz

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