On 12/19/13 4:55 PM, David Burns wrote: > On 19/12/2013 18:48, Jason Orendorff wrote: >> Con: >> - more work for sheriffs (mostly merges) > > If mostly merges, are you suggesting there will be little traffic on > the branch or the JS team will watch the tree for failures?
Neither, I'm just saying the overall rate of broken patches wouldn't increase much, which I think shouldn't be controversial. That is, sheriffing is not watching trees, it's fighting bustage. Each busted patch and each intermittent orange creates a ton of work. It stands to reason that diverting some patches to a separate tree won't increase the volume of patches, except to the degree it actually improves developer efficiency (and let's have that problem, please). > 2013-07 : 6 days, 13:46:11 > 2013-08 : 4 days, 5:42:17 > 2013-09 : 4 days, 20:59:41 > 2013-10 : 4 days, 21:22:40 > 2013-11 : 8 days, 4:58:30 > 2013-12 : 2 days, 16:47:42 I know the point of including these numbers was, "hey look it's not that bad", but this is really shocking. We're looking at an average of something like 125 hours per month that developers can't check stuff in. Even if the breakage is evenly distributed across time zones (optimistic) we're looking at zero 9s of availability. We've all gotten used to it, but it's kind of nuts. -j _______________________________________________ dev-platform mailing list dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-platform