On Wed, 29 Dec 2021, Marko Zec wrote:

On Mon, 27 Dec 2021 16:46:54 -0800
Gleb Smirnoff <gleb...@freebsd.org> wrote:

On Fri, Dec 17, 2021 at 10:17:55PM -0800, Gleb Smirnoff wrote:
T> T> K> The jails created by that test never go away. It’s as if
T> T> K> `crfree(inp->inp_cred);` doesn’t actually get called. And
T> T> K> indeed, it looks like inpcb_dtor() does not get called at
T> T> K> all.
T> T>
T> T> Yes, I faced this problem today, too. :(
T> T>
T> T> My radical opinion is that per-VNET pcb zones should just be
T> T> eliminated. The only thing they serve is imposing maxsockets
T> T> limit separately for each VNET. But we already have the
T> T> maxsocket limit on the socket zone, which is _global_!
T> T>
T> T> Anybody to explain me the sense of the per-VNET per-pcb zone
T> T> limit set to the same maxsockets value? You can't create a pcb
T> T> without a socket, which is guaranteed by the in_pcballoc()
T> T> prototype. Of course I understand that pcbs may outlive the
T> T> socket. But those pcbs that outlive a socket, are eventually
T> T> garbage collected as their lifetime is finite. Anyway jail/VNET
T> T> was never declared as a resource management framework anyway!
T> T>
T> T> So, for this particular problem I would suggest just eliminate
T> T> per-VNET pcb zones, but in general the fact that idle SMR zone
T> T> may never purge its cache sucks and needs improvement.
T>
T> I have created a patch that would mitigate that problem. Once the
T> zones are global, the jails will eventually die if there is some
T> pcb zone traffic.
T>
T> https://reviews.freebsd.org/D33542

Despite I still believe that PCB zones belong to global state rather
than to a VNET, the patch doesn't help to mitigate massive memory
leaks with vnet jails on a machine that is dedicated solely to run a
test suite. If machine does nothing except a test suite, there is
almost zero pcb traffic. If there is no pcb zone traffic, the SMR
caches stay, and thus destroyed jails will also stay. Our vnet jail
"weights" a lot! Even with the global PCB zone patch applied, each
vnet jail creates 33 UMA zones!

I think we need a KPI to purge the SMR caches, and we also need to put
vnet jails on a diet. These are two independent problems, of course.

+1 for nuking all per-vnet PCB zones and the alike!  At the time I
V_irtualized them during the early stages of VNET implementaion, the
focus was on correctnes and tracking of inter-vnet resource leaks. Once
that step was reasonably completed (circa 15 years ago!), per-VNET
zones became a pure waste of memory, amplified with per-CPU local free
pools for each zone, not to mention the PITA with VNET cleanups...

Please remeber that we do have limits on some zones and if you
de-virtualise them those limits become global and that quickly will be
a problem.

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Bjoern A. Zeeb                                                     r15:7

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