On Fri, Oct 22, 2021 at 10:47 AM Emmanuel Vadot <m...@bidouilliste.com>
wrote:

> On Fri, 22 Oct 2021 10:04:15 -0700 (PDT)
> "Rodney W. Grimes" <free...@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> wrote:
>
> > We need to STOP these "I dont like the 20 year old defaults,
> > so I am going to change them to what I like and use"  It is NOT
> > forward progress on making a better system, it is tilting at
> > defaults, very long established defaults, that should probably
> > just be left alone.
>
>  It's not "I don't like", it's "We don't like". If we can't change
> FreeBSD default to what most of our users want I don't know why we're
> still working on this OS.
>

**We** can change the defaults.  But to know that we, as a community, have
consensus to make the change, we need to have a conversation.  Having that
conversation before making the change seems like a much better [*] approach
than presenting the change as a fait accompli and waiting for dissent.

In other words, I am okay with changing the default (I personally do not
feel a need for it), but am unhappy that there was no conversation about it
other than a phabricator review that was apparently only open for about a
day.

-Ben

* I have some other, more precise, adjectives I would like to use, but I
think the risk of them being interpreted harmfully is too high to use them
in this forum.  I'm happy to talk more in some other forum if you want.

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