Hi Ting,

I share your frustration with falling back to b2g-info.  I myself have
been debugging OOM kills on Tarako and have just been watching adb
logcat with grep filters to figure out what is going on.  It is less
than ideal.

Having a realtime line graph of member is a really good idea.  Last
week, Harald Kirschner (cc'd) demonstrated his latest version of
firewatch with its realtime graphing UI.  It's exactly what you're
looking for.

We had a cross-team meeting between the Gaia, Dev-tools, and Fxos Perf
teams as well as anybody involved with writing tools (e.g. Harald).
Axel Kratel is the primary person to talk to about tools features now.
He's the product manager for the dev tools team.

I am putting together a list of requirements for a memory profiling tool
*right now*.  I was planning to deliver it to Axel this week.  His team
is writing the new memory profiler dev tool right now and if we want to
have any influence on its design and features we need to communicate
them to his team ASAP.

I'd ping Harald to get the latest copy of firewatch for you immediate
needs.  Then email me any specific requirements you have for a memory
profiler so I can include them in the list I'm delivering to Axel.

-dave

On 05/21/2014 03:31 AM, Ting-Yu Chou wrote:
> Hi Dave,
> 
> When I was working on memory issues on Tarako, such as Gallery gets killed by
> LMK while scrolling, I usually asked by Gaia developers that "How should I
> measure how much memory is the application using while I am ...?" I answered
> them that I eyeball the output of b2g-info, which is not an easy way.
> 
> As the loading from Tarako is eased recently, I am thinking maybe a real-time
> memory line chart will be helpful. Thinker told me there're some discussions 
> on
> dev-platform, so I found and read your email.
> 
>> mode" for the profiler.  We can then add in Harald's (and :bkelly's
>> prototype, and :hub's implemented) real-time memory reporting into the
>> profiler timeline.  I'm working on profiler markers from JS
> 
> Seems you're concentrate on unifying the communication between target and
> host. But how do you think if I try to add the real-time memory report
> simultaneously?
> 
> I haven't thought it completely yet, but I'd like to know are there any 
> chances
> that I can help on that, or maybe someone is already working on it.
> 
> Thanks,
> Ting
> 
>> On 03/25/2014 11:44 AM, Dietrich Ayala wrote:
>>> Harald's tool is a bit different - it's about real-time tracking for
>>> developers. I have an oddly similar tool I wrote for my own use, that
>>> shows real-time graphs of memory and CPU using the same method, to be
>>> able to see the impact of specific sequences of user actions across
>>> multiple processes.
>>>
>>> However, on Tarako I've noticed that it greatly affects the performance
>>> of the device over short periods of time. I haven't looked further into
>>> it - Harald have you seen that issue?
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>     Thanks Harald!
>>>
>>>     We (+FxOS Perf Team [1]) have a similar memory tracking effort that
>>>     feeds into Datazilla [2]. *Hub*ert Figuiere can speak to its
>>>     details. *Ben Kelly* leads our memory performance efforts and *Dave
>>>     Huseby* leads our tool development. Please chat with all three about
>>>     what you've built and how we can work together on this.
>>>
>>>     Mike
>>>
>>>     [1]: https://wiki.mozilla.org/B2G/Performance
>>>     [2]: http://mzl.la/1giCtEL
>>>
>>>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>     *From: *"Harald Kirschner" <[email protected]>
>>>     *To: *"Apps Partner Engineering @ Mozilla"
>>>     <[email protected]>
>>>     *Cc: *"Dietrich Ayala" <[email protected]>, "Fabrice Desre"
>>>     <[email protected]>, "Thomas Elin" <[email protected]>, "Mike Lee"
>>>     <[email protected]>
>>>     *Sent: *Tuesday, March 25, 2014 11:26:04 AM
>>>     *Subject: *Firewatch: Realtime B2G info
>>>
>>>     To debug memory use a bit better after hearing that the new dev tool
>>>     overlay doesn’t report a good memory indicator here a new approach:
>>>
>>>     https://github.com/digitarald/firewatch
>>>
>>>     Firewatch is basically a real-time b2g-info, showing only the useful
>>>     values (PSS and USS [1]) and free memory. On the roadmap is a
>>>     history feature to see max/min/avg/mean values (spikes) and keeping
>>>     killed apps.
>>>
>>>     I still have to give it a test ride on Tarako and should have more
>>>     details later. Feel free to cc more people as feedback is much
>>>     appreciated!
>>>
>>>     /Harald
>>>
>>>     Partner Engineer & Web Craftsman | [email protected]
>>>     <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>
>>>     [1]: http://elinux.org/Android_Memory_Usage#procrank
>>>
>>>
>>>
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