On 2023-01-04 18:46, Robie Basak wrote: > What's the plan for Kinetic? Please see: > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates#Newer_Releases
The plan is to be lazy and skip kinetic. ;) Actually, in this particular case it shouldn't be a problem. If a user with an updated jammy (including this fix) upgrades to kinetic, they will still have version 0.219.1 of the language-selector-* packages, since the version string in kinetic is lower. So no regression. I added a kinetic "Won't fix" bug task to clarify my intention. > If the goal is to make Sinhala text more readable on Ubuntu, please > could you make that an additional part of the Test Plan, instead of > only checking the order of output in a font listing? I expanded the test plan with that. >> Where problems could occur > > It sounds like font metrics are changing, so text might wrap > differently, resulting in it no longer fitting, or change the size > of windows, etc, in various user interface elements. It sounds like > it's worth the change, but please look out for this during testing. Please note that Sinhala is not well covered with respect to FOSS (including Ubuntu) translations. If you use Sinhala as the display language for menus and messages, you see Sinhala strings only occasionally. So even if the risk you mention exists, it's a low risk for this reason. I'm assuming that the focus of the Sinhala speaking users is about web browsing at first hand. But I added a pointer to this aspect in the bug description. ** Description changed: [ Impact ] The current default font for Sinhala (LKLUG) is unmaintained and comes with issues. Noto offers Sinhala fonts with significantly higher quality. fonts-lklug-sinhala is pulled by quite a few meta packages. Instead of changing that, the proposed change makes fontconfig give Noto Sans Sinhala respective Noto Serif Sinhala higher precedence than LKLUG, and that — together with installation of fonts-noto-core — seems to be sufficient to achieve the desired result. [ Test Plan ] * Install language-selector-[common,gnome] from jammy-proposed. * Open Language Support and install the Sinhala language. * Open a terminal window and run this command: - fc-match -a | grep -E 'LKLUG|Sinhala' + fc-match -a | grep -E 'LKLUG|Sinhala' * Confirm that Noto Sans Sinhala is listed before LKLUG. + + * Close Firefox and re-open it. + + * Visit e.g. https://si.wikipedia.org and confirm the + improvement. (Also I (Gunnar), who don't speak Sinhala, + notice a remarkable difference.) [ Where problems could occur ] No real problem in sight. Some Sinhala speaking users with fonts-noto- core installed will indeed see a surprise change when it starts to render Sinhala via Noto fonts instead of LKLUG. But that surprise ought to make them happy. :) + + Please note Robie Basak's warning about the changed font metrics in + comment #7, though. [ Original description ] **What's the problem?** Currently ubuntu comes with LKLUG font for sinhala (si). it's not clear. e.g. we cannot recognize vowel signs and read websites using that font. We can change it manually but such changes do not apply to some applications or application types e.g. snap apps etc. LKLUG (last active: 2012) no one maintain it now. https://web.archive.org/web/20220000000000*/http://www.lug.lk/ http://www.lug.lk/fonts/lklug **What expected to happen?** We would like to see Noto serif sinhala as the default font for sinhala language https://fonts.google.com/noto/specimen/Noto+Serif+Sinhala [Highlighs: clear (readable), thin, takes less space than sans sinhala] If noto sans is more suitable for ubuntuOS, you can add noto sans sinhala https://fonts.google.com/noto/specimen/Noto+Sans+Sinhala [Highlighs: clear (readable), thick, takes more space than serif sinhala] **Additional details** Screenshots (see the difference: LKLUG/Noto) LKLUG https://i.ibb.co/nbHM5Mw/lklug.jpg Noto Sinhala https://i.ibb.co/k9dbtYb/noto.jpg If you need more examples or clarifications, please add a comment Random posts 1. https://groups.google.com/g/Sinhala-Unicode/c/LYxuJ44dY3g 2. https://twitter.com/thilinag/status/1598707165920825344#m (LKLUG bug with some apps) 3. https://www.reddit.com/r/srilanka/comments/nzpl9p/change_sinhala_font_in_ubuntu/ Also, some developers already have designed tools, scripts for that problem however many people do not try to find these scripts and switch to other OS 1. https://github.com/IMS94/UbuntuSinhalaFont (developer: PMC chair @apache) 2. https://gist.github.com/thilinag/66577033fafd00c3dfdaa898c2478c79 3. https://github.com/hankyoTutorials/linux-system-sinhala-font-changer Please review details, screenshots and posts. This is not a personal opinion and atleast, i expect to see this change in the next interim or LTS release. Furthermore, please let me know if i can help to speed-up this replacement process ** Also affects: ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu Kinetic) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Also affects: language-selector (Ubuntu Kinetic) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Changed in: language-selector (Ubuntu Kinetic) Status: New => Won't Fix ** Changed in: language-selector (Ubuntu Jammy) Status: Incomplete => In Progress ** No longer affects: ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu Kinetic) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to language-selector in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/2000551 Title: [System Fonts] Replace default sinhala font from LKLUG to Noto Status in language-selector package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in ubuntu-meta package in Ubuntu: Won't Fix Status in language-selector source package in Jammy: In Progress Status in language-selector source package in Kinetic: Won't Fix Bug description: [ Impact ] The current default font for Sinhala (LKLUG) is unmaintained and comes with issues. Noto offers Sinhala fonts with significantly higher quality. fonts-lklug-sinhala is pulled by quite a few meta packages. Instead of changing that, the proposed change makes fontconfig give Noto Sans Sinhala respective Noto Serif Sinhala higher precedence than LKLUG, and that — together with installation of fonts-noto-core — seems to be sufficient to achieve the desired result. [ Test Plan ] * Install language-selector-[common,gnome] from jammy-proposed. * Open Language Support and install the Sinhala language. * Open a terminal window and run this command: fc-match -a | grep -E 'LKLUG|Sinhala' * Confirm that Noto Sans Sinhala is listed before LKLUG. * Close Firefox and re-open it. * Visit e.g. https://si.wikipedia.org and confirm the improvement. (Also I (Gunnar), who don't speak Sinhala, notice a remarkable difference.) [ Where problems could occur ] No real problem in sight. Some Sinhala speaking users with fonts-noto- core installed will indeed see a surprise change when it starts to render Sinhala via Noto fonts instead of LKLUG. But that surprise ought to make them happy. :) Please note Robie Basak's warning about the changed font metrics in comment #7, though. [ Original description ] **What's the problem?** Currently ubuntu comes with LKLUG font for sinhala (si). it's not clear. e.g. we cannot recognize vowel signs and read websites using that font. We can change it manually but such changes do not apply to some applications or application types e.g. snap apps etc. LKLUG (last active: 2012) no one maintain it now. https://web.archive.org/web/20220000000000*/http://www.lug.lk/ http://www.lug.lk/fonts/lklug **What expected to happen?** We would like to see Noto serif sinhala as the default font for sinhala language https://fonts.google.com/noto/specimen/Noto+Serif+Sinhala [Highlighs: clear (readable), thin, takes less space than sans sinhala] If noto sans is more suitable for ubuntuOS, you can add noto sans sinhala https://fonts.google.com/noto/specimen/Noto+Sans+Sinhala [Highlighs: clear (readable), thick, takes more space than serif sinhala] **Additional details** Screenshots (see the difference: LKLUG/Noto) LKLUG https://i.ibb.co/nbHM5Mw/lklug.jpg Noto Sinhala https://i.ibb.co/k9dbtYb/noto.jpg If you need more examples or clarifications, please add a comment Random posts 1. https://groups.google.com/g/Sinhala-Unicode/c/LYxuJ44dY3g 2. https://twitter.com/thilinag/status/1598707165920825344#m (LKLUG bug with some apps) 3. https://www.reddit.com/r/srilanka/comments/nzpl9p/change_sinhala_font_in_ubuntu/ Also, some developers already have designed tools, scripts for that problem however many people do not try to find these scripts and switch to other OS 1. https://github.com/IMS94/UbuntuSinhalaFont (developer: PMC chair @apache) 2. https://gist.github.com/thilinag/66577033fafd00c3dfdaa898c2478c79 3. https://github.com/hankyoTutorials/linux-system-sinhala-font-changer Please review details, screenshots and posts. 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