Hi David, Thanks for your effort to make Ubuntu better by submitting this bug!
As regards your first item, I'm currently trying to address it in other ways than changing language-selector. Your comment on https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=687945 would be appreciated. It might make a difference, actually. I'm not sure about your second item. Programmers should be aware that the output from e.g. the date() command is affected by the locale environment. $ env | grep LC_TIME LC_TIME=sv_SE.UTF-8 $ date ons 28 nov+ 2012 09.50.+14 CET $ LC_TIME= date Wed Nov 28 09:50:22 CET 2012 Still adding a coreutils task to this bug, which carries /bin/date. As for the first example in you third item, it is possible to set the paper size separately, since there is a separate LC_PAPER locale category. The line export LC_PAPER="hu_HU.UTF-8" in ~/.profile should do it. Setting only the first day of the week is not possible, though, since all the date and time related format aspects are controlled by one single locale category, i.e. LC_TIME. Implementing such a customization possibility would be quite a significant change. In Ubuntu 13.04 or 13.10 language-selector will be replaced by the GNOME UI for setting language and locales, so such a change won't happen in language-selector. If you consider it important enough, I would recommend that you submit a separate bug; a GNOME bug would be best: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/buglist.cgi?product=gnome-control-center&component=Region%20%26%20Language ** Bug watch added: GNOME Bug Tracker #687945 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=687945 ** Also affects: glib via https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=687945 Importance: Unknown Status: Unknown ** Also affects: coreutils (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Changed in: language-selector (Ubuntu) Status: New => Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to language-selector in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1024663 Title: Custom regional formats Status in The "G" Library - GLib: Unknown Status in “coreutils” package in Ubuntu: New Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: Regional formats should be customizable. Currently the user is capable of selecting a locale, and that locale will determine how dates are displayed, the first day of the week, etc. However, it is not possible to override any of these choices -- it's a 'take it or leave it' decision. There are several problems with that: 1. If the system language is English, and I set the RF to Hungarian, the names of months, days will be Hungarian, while the rest of the interface remains English, which is confusing. 2. RF settings apply to the command line too; once again, introducing a different date format, names of days and months, which may cause scripts to stop working. That may be a problem for developers (or for users who download scripts from a developer's page, which, with smartphones, Calibre, etc., is not so uncommon as someone might think). The settings for the GUI and the command line should be distinct. 3. Very often one would like to change just one setting (A4 paper size for printing, Monday as the first day of the week, etc.), which is currently not possible. I understand there was a similar bug, number 40669. However, the fix only added the Regional Formats tab, and ignored part of the problem of the reporter: "it's impossible to configure a system that uses English GUI strings and the rest in native format." This functionality has been available in Windows and KDE forever. Ubuntu has parted ways with Gnome with regard to the DE, and it would be very welcome if we could also say goodbye to the Gnome mindset and actually give some power to the user. After all, even smartphones, which are definitely consumer devices, allow this type of customization. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 12.04 Package: language-selector-gnome 0.79 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.2.0-27.43-generic 3.2.21 Uname: Linux 3.2.0-27-generic i686 ApportVersion: 2.0.1-0ubuntu11 Architecture: i386 Date: Sat Jul 14 11:32:04 2012 ExecutablePath: /usr/bin/gnome-language-selector InstallationMedia: Kubuntu 11.10 "Oneiric Ocelot" - Release i386 (20111012) InterpreterPath: /usr/bin/python2.7 PackageArchitecture: all SourcePackage: language-selector UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to precise on 2012-05-03 (71 days ago) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/glib/+bug/1024663/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
