It's alright, it will happen eventually. The wine devs have gone through
the denial phase (Pulse is "not capable", it's not shipped by default on
"most distributions", "ALSA compatibility is a better solution"
somehow). They're just finished the anger phase (completely badgering
Maarten and his work). Now they're finally in the bargaining phase
("build some reputation again and maybe we can talk") where we can start
making some progress.It's a shame that the only basis the wine devs have to reject the patch any longer is based on "reputation issues" rather than actual technical arguments. There may have been some in the past, and now there isn't anymore so they're still struggling to find reasons to reject the patch in order to preserve the reality they've built for themselves over the entire 1,794 days during which this bug has been open. It's normal -- it's simply a defence mechanism; they don't want their own reality to crumble down, so they rationalize away their reasoning, which deep down they know to be flawed, but they convince themselves that it's not. They'll get over it eventually, it will just take some more time. Until then, we as users should just keep using patched Wine releases and patiently wait for them to come out of their comfy artificial shell. Now, one of three things is going to happen: Either they will simply ignore this post despite knowing it to be true, either they'll cherry- pick one or two statements and provide non-technical arguments as to why they don't stand (and somehow, refuting that subset of the post invalidates the entire post), or maybe (just maybe!) they'll see things for what they really are and actually start working *with* Maarten (and, by extensions, most users of Wine) instead of *against* Maarten. I wish Maarten the best of luck in his work and his interactions with the Wine devs. I also want to express my appreciation towards his work, without which Wine would simply not be usable at all for me. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to pulseaudio in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/371897 Title: Occasional sound drops in Wine via PulseAudio Status in Wine: Confirmed Status in “pulseaudio” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in “wine” package in Ubuntu: Triaged Bug description: Binary package hint: wine I'm running the Spotify Windows application on two laptops under Wine with both internal and external USB sound card. With both cards you get the occasional pop and click in the sound suggesting some data loss somewhere. I've selected the alsa drivers in winecfg and the whole thing is running via the alsa compatibility layer in pulseaudio. Jaunty 9.04 UNR and standard Ubuntu desktop. wine: Installed: 1.0.1-0ubuntu6 Candidate: 1.0.1-0ubuntu6 Version table: *** 1.0.1-0ubuntu6 0 500 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com jaunty/universe Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status pulseaudio: Installed: 1:0.9.14-0ubuntu20 Candidate: 1:0.9.14-0ubuntu20 Version table: *** 1:0.9.14-0ubuntu20 0 500 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com jaunty/main Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/wine/+bug/371897/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
