-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Christian Convey wrote: > I'd like to suggest that this be reclassified as a bug rather than a > wishlist item. Although it's not a bug with any one particular > component involved, it is a bug in Ubuntu.
It's a wishlist severity bug -- still a bug. [snip] > I suppose this hinges on whether or not you consider it a bug that (a) > the speakers are too quiet to be uesful, and (b) the solution involves > the user running alsaconf from the cmd-line. But it seems to me that in > this regard Dapper doesn't give the intended user experience. I agree that it can be befuddling. To address your points: (a) Setting a default of "too quiet" arguably is better than "too loud". Some hardware does Bad Things when set too loud, while I've not heard of any equipment being damaged when the levels are too quiet. Again, the matrix of possible "good" levels is /huge/. (b) Ubuntu doesn't ship alsaconf; I presume you meant alsamixer? Take for example the instance where the mixer applet by default would enumerate 'Master', 'PCM', and 'Wave'. Now which of these would a "new user" twiddle? While presenting the option{,s} up front, is this complexity any more intuitive? Again, there's no guarantee each sound driver even provides said elements or even if each element acts as its name suggests. [One might then argue that the element names should be changed to reflect more accurately their usage, which reintroduces the problem of level consistency across dist-upgrades, as it depends on names remaining consistent...] The crux of the matter is that neither issue is resolved easily, so the best -- at this point -- that can be done is to attempt to further abstract away the complexity from the user, which means making $tool do the hard work... Thanks, - -- Daniel T. Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG key: www.sh.nu/~crimsun/pubkey.gpg.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEkF1we9GwFciKvaMRAoGrAJ9z3lmt4AmIpeS1FLYnpwNnbEd79QCePcRI i39ez3RdueHcsKymSpx9MFo= =dW17 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Missing PCM volume control limits laptop sound volume https://launchpad.net/bugs/49607 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs