On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 2:13 PM, Ted Gould <t...@gould.cx> wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-03-04 at 08:18 +0000, Matthew East wrote:
>> Lots of people will remove the FUSA applet, either intentionally to save
>> panel space (because they don't have multi-user systems and can't see
>> the point of the huge long applet) or accidentally, so I can't see that
>> we can avoid documenting both ways. And this looks clumsy.
>
> I think that for documentation we can assume that people won't remove
> the FUSA applet.  It is locked on the panel, so it is relatively
> difficult to do.  If they're going to go to that effort, I think that
> they're taking their own path, and are outside the documentation.  If
> you're going to go that far, you should also document people who choose
> to remove the system menu.

Although your first point is one worth considering, I don't think the
last sentence is logical. There are no obvious reasons to remove the
system menu - it contains a lot of crucial applications. On the other
hand, even though I haven't done it myself, there are obvious reasons
for some people to remove the FUSA applet: it takes up a lot of panel
space because it has the user's name by it, and for the majority of
people who just have one user account, they are pretty likely to
remember their name already.

See for example:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-doc/2009-March/012450.html

Maybe the solution is to remove the name, making the applet smaller, I
don't know - after all the applet is no longer really about switching
user, it will be used a lot more often to shut down the computer and
log off.

I'm still vaguely annoyed that we have to go to the trouble of
patching Gnome documentation about this though, it seems to me that
the correct approach would have been to convince upstream that this is
the right way to go, and then feed the work in that way. Any serious
deltas with Gnome that makes it necessary to patch their documentation
are unfortunate because not only do we need to write and maintain the
patch as upstream documentation changes, but our translators have to
translate the new strings too.

-- 
Matthew East
http://www.mdke.org
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When FUSA applet has shutdown/logout items are duplicated in "System" menu
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/283278
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