This won't sound as technical as everything else but here is what I did
to make it sorta work

install amsn, install cheese.
open cheese and set the res to 800x600
close cheese
open amsn
connect to someone and open the cam - after doign the wizard - it will work
then cheese should work fine too.

Additionally, once cheese is working-ish, if i go and change any
effects, it will freeze and need to be "force quit"

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cheese doesn't show v4l2 video output and disables output on gstreamer-based 
apps ran afterwards
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/290506
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