Sweet Matt, thanks!

On Apr 5, 2006, at 13:56, Matt wrote:

Dan,

The code is sort of bitmasked in a way (using hex values). So these codes actually reflect combinations. There are literally hundreds of combinations.

Matt



Dan wrote:

I've been able to assemble these valid codes

http://www.declude.com/tools/header.php?code=c020040c
http://www.declude.com/tools/header.php?code=4000020f
http://www.declude.com/tools/header.php?code=6000410f
http://www.declude.com/tools/header.php?code=8004000e
http://www.declude.com/tools/header.php?code=8010000e
http://www.declude.com/tools/header.php?code=8020000c
http://www.declude.com/tools/header.php?code=8400000a
http://www.declude.com/tools/header.php?code=8c200000
http://www.declude.com/tools/header.php?code=c040120e
http://www.declude.com/tools/header.php?code=c004020e
http://www.declude.com/tools/header.php?code=c010100e
http://www.declude.com/tools/header.php?code=c8000246
http://www.declude.com/tools/header.php?code=c8000247


and these invalid ones, which are reported to be from multiple criteria
http://www.declude.com/tools/header.php?code=a400010b
http://www.declude.com/tools/header.php?code=a010010f


Can you confirm if when multiple criteria are triggered, say 3, if one of the 3 is displayed or if it is a composite code that represents all 3?

Thanks,
Dan



On Apr 5, 2006, at 5:55, David Barker wrote:

Hi Dan,

I am not sure that there is a list of codes. I think the codes are generated and then decoded by the headers page. It is a tool that Scott Perry wrote so
I am not that familiar with it I would have to look into it further.

David B
www.declude.com

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan
Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 8:40 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMHEADERS question - more confusion

David,

Pardon the delayed reply, but I'm curious, how many possible codes are there
and is there a comprehensive inventory or list anywhere?

Thanks,
Dan



On Feb 24, 2006, at 5:56, David Barker wrote:

You can add the following to your global.cfg file under your headers
section:

XINHEADER    X-Declude-Code: %HEADERCODE%

This will produce a code and you can check it on this web page which will explain to you what problem(s) exist with headers that cause E- mails to fail the BADHEADERS or SPAMHEADERS tests in Declude JunkMail.

http://www.declude.com/tools/header.php

David B
www.declude.com
________________________________

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Orin Wells
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 3:05 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMHEADERS question - more confusion


Thanks Matt.  I don't spend as much time as some of you folks have
spent on both iMail and Declude so there is more than a little bit I
still have to learn.

I misread your first response and got off on the wrong track by
thinking you had said the message-id header WAS inserted by the mail client. In re-reading you clearly said it was done by iMail. OK, I
know what to do now.

At 10:47 PM 2/23/2006, Matt wrote:


Outlook does not add a Message-ID header. The difference between these two messages is that the first is one that is using your server
as it's SMTP server and you are scanning the message as it came
directly from the E-mail client, while the second example is one that
passed through another server before coming to yours.  IMail, like
most every E-mail
server, adds a Message-ID header when one isn't already there.
Declude
detects Message-ID headers inserted by your own IMail box (Message- Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> in the first example), and treats the
message as if it didn't have one since it didn't actually have one
when it was received, and this is what triggers SPAMHEADERS for this
message.  The
second example had a Message-ID header before it hit your server.
That
header was inserted by Charter's server.
There is a lesser known solution to this that you definitely should
add if you are going to stay on IMail 7.07.  You can add
"LOOSENSPAMHEADERS ON" to your Global.cfg to disable the Message-ID
test in SPAMHEADERS.  I use this even though I don't have the same
issue because I get a lot more false positives on SPAMHEADERS when it
checks for the Message-ID.  If you use this alternative switch, you
will still get other hits such as CMDSPACE and BADHEADERS on some of
the same E-mail clients.  It appears that you aren't using CMDSPACE
though because that test would hit every directly connecting Outlook
client unless it was whitelisted.  CMDSPACE is a great test,
especially in combination with other tests that target zombie spam
(XBL/CBL, SpamCop, open relay tests, and to some extent Sniffer).
The best solution is to upgrade to IMail 8.x or higher and add a setting to your Global.cfg for "WHITELIST AUTH". This will whitelist
all authenticated E-mail, which I assume included the first example
that you provided. This also saves processing power since WHITELIST
AUTH disables most tests in JunkMail.
        Matt
                        Orin Wells wrote:

        Clearly I am missing something here.  I am still wrestling
with the SPAMHEADERS issue but with a different sender. This time the
sender is using Microsoft Office Outlook.  It appears messages
coming from
this sender do not have the Message-ID header.  But when I look at
other
messages sent by others using the same build of this application
sometimes
they DO have the Message-ID.  What is happening here?  Is there
anyway that
this sender can "fix" this problem?
               Here is a header set from the chap who is "failing"
               X-Persona: <Awasco>
        Received: from steve2 [216.254.57.135] by consejo-wa.org
with ESMTP
          (SMTPD32-7.07) id A9111EEB010C; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 14:37:05
-0800
        Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        From: "Steve Chupik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        To: "'Orin Wells'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        Subject: RE: e-mail
        Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 14:36:49 -0800
        Organization: Consejo Counseling
        MIME-Version: 1.0
        Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
    boundary="----=_NextPart_000_03BE_01C63886.9616AF40"
        X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510
        Thread-Index: AcYzhon3oAG4QKXrR/aQjfBQ4RaA6gFQvMdQ
        X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506
        In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        X-RBL-Warning: SPAMHEADERS: This E-mail has headers
consistent with spam [4000021e].
        X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [216.254.57.135]
        X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude JunkMail
(www.declude.com <http://www.declude.com/> ) for spam.
        X-Spam-Tests-Failed: SPAMHEADERS
        X-RCPT-TO: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        Status: U
        X-UIDL: 375162615
Here is a message from another chap using exactly the same
build of MS Office Outlook - no problem.
               X-Persona: <Awasco>
        Received: from mxsf16.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.216]
by awasco.com with ESMTP
          (SMTPD32-7.07) id A0DE7401B8; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 08:18:54
-0700
        Received: from mxip10.cluster1.charter.net
(mxip10a.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.140])
                by mxsf16.cluster1.charter.net (8.12.11/8.12.11)
with ESMTP id i6QF6YR0023700
                for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 11:06:34 -0400
        Received: from 44ba00138.kfalls.or.charter.com (HELO
SCOTTSGATEWAY) (68.186.0.138)
          by mxip10.cluster1.charter.net with ESMTP; 26 Jul 2004
11:06:32 -0400
        Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        X-Ironport-AV: i="3.83,88,1089000000";
           d="scan'208?jpg'208,145?dat'208,145,59";
a="140519816:sNHT19421620"
        Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        From: "Scott Lochard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        To: "Orin Wells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        Subject:
        Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 08:06:30 -0700
        Organization: LifeorDeathLeadership
        MIME-Version: 1.0
        Content-Type: multipart/mixed;
    boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0060_01C472E7.76D7EA10"
        X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510
        X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409
        X-MS-TNEF-Correlator:
00000000E4E4AE15AD8AD544BD6C22CBC36DF311E4922700
        Thread-Index: AcRzIeZrtdYsyWeMTb6K4XIb1GNwxA==
        X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[209.225.28.216]
        X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude JunkMail
(www.declude.com <http://www.declude.com/> ) for spam.
        X-Spam-Tests-Failed: IPNOTINMX, CATCHALLMAILS
        X-Declude-Date: 07/26/2004 15:06:30 [12]
        X-RCPT-TO: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        Status: U
        X-UIDL: 375108670
               Is it the ISP service that inserts (or should) the
message-ID or is it Outlook?  It does not make sense it would be
the ISP
service because it really shouldn't even know you are sending an
email.  So
if it is the email client application (Microsoft Office Outlook)
why does
one incarnation insert the message header and the other not?
I am not convinced that it is necessarily the message-id
because I found a message from Barry Simpson using an even later
version of
Microsoft Office Outlook where the message-id appears in the same
manner and
no flag is generated. Now I am really confused. Is it something else
causing this failure?
               X-Persona: <Awasco>
Received: from declude.com [63.246.13.90] by awasco.com with
ESMTP
          (SMTPD32-7.07) id A421B009E; Thu, 02 Dec 2004 07:26:25
-0800
        Received: from Bart [68.162.218.198] by declude.com with
ESMTP
          (SMTPD32-8.05) id AB311FD40074; Thu, 02 Dec 2004 08:40:01
-0500
        Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        From: "Barry Simpson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        Subject: Important Declude Update
        Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 08:43:34 -0500
        MIME-Version: 1.0
        Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
    boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0034_01C4D84B.02BCA200"
        X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353
        X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180
        Thread-Index: AcTYdOsB2FXQiyGFTg2powYSHhcaCQ==
        Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        X-ML1: NzI5
        X-ML2: VGh1LCAyIERlYyAyMDA0IDA4OjQzOjM0IC0wNTAw
        X-ML3:
QY969WtqWWSEQlARpEoFHITI4imZ2xl74aRUjTv/smaG5axEQub2RD
+vbSwB4HRHiUzm78WolzKZ
y7Tdee3Fig==
X-Note: This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus
(www.declude.com <http://www.declude.com/> )
        X-NRecips: 1
        X-Reverse-IP: static-68-162-218-198.bos.east.verizon.net
        X-Weight: 0 (Whitelisted)
        X-Country-Chain: UNITED STATES->destination.
        X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [68.162.218.198]
        X-Declude-Spoolname: D1b311fd40074adf7.SMD
        Precedence: bulk
        Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
        X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[63.246.13.90]
        X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude JunkMail
(www.declude.com <http://www.declude.com/> ) for spam.
        X-Spam-Tests-Failed: CATCHALLMAILS
        X-Declude-Date: 12/02/2004 13:43:34 [102]
        X-RCPT-TO: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        Status: U
        X-UIDL: 375122650
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