We won't renew as well if that is the case. Time already spent with the Declude software in adjusting filters for SPAM and it's costs and the cost of email software renewal AND other 3rd part plug-ins for SPAM control; it does not add up for a profit with us as a hosting provider. If you truly add up the costs of maintenance with Imail, Declude, 3rd party plugins (sniffer, inv-rbl, etc)... AND the time spent managing all of it; we are back to where we started and it's better to just let the SPAM come in.
I agree with you. The reasons we chose Declude in the beginning was the lower maintenance cost to counter weight the "big boys" costs. And Declude is far from being a "big boy". As with you, the lack of the product's advancement has irritated us as well. There is still NO stable product and yet they promote it. Guess it's time to go back to open source and/or develop our own spam program; based on that open source. With the money we've already spent on all this; we could have it developed. Erik -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Fisher Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 5:31 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] declude 4 changes ... worried... I can tell you at $1450 a year for my Declude for Imail, isn't going to fly very well here. Ironically, one of the reasons I chose Declude in the beginning was the lower maintenance cost. The upfront cost was higher than the alternatives, but the ongoing price was very affordable. I belive the product was the best product for Imail integration at the time I purchaed it. I also have to say that the lack of the product's advancement has irritated me. Yes there was the change to a service, and yes SmarterMail support was implemented. But the base product has not not improved in virus/vulnerability detection or spam detection in a year. I think that change was the addition of the dynhelo internal test. And I don't use that test because run a third party test that is more effective. Looking at the release logs, the last substantial virus/vulnerability detection or spam additions were in September 2004 with version 1.80. If the price is going up that much, I really expect the program to be getting better. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Che Vilnonis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 9:54 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] declude 4 changes ... worried... >I agree. I just emailed to see what the upgrade price would be for just >Junkmail... and I'm not sure that is even possible to purchase it >alone. Sounds like Declude has been following Ipswitch's model for >bundling/pricing software. > > ~Ché > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Scott Fisher > Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 10:43 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] declude 4 changes ... worried... > > > So I thought I'd go web browsing on the Declude site and see what is > up > with > Declude 4. > I'm a Virus Pro and Junkmail Pro licensee on Imail. > > Going forward Declude 4 is the entire suite (Virus Pro, Junkmail Pro > and Hijaak). Kevin's post mentions that Declude 3 will be supported. > Although long term how long will they support two different code sets? > I'd say my long-term gut feeling isn't good. > > Next I look through the purchase page. Declude 4 for Imail is now only > available for a $1450 Annual Subscription. Ouch. The last time I paid > maintenance for Declude it was $265. That's a bump. > > (Essentially having only one domain here), That is mighty pricey > especially > compared to the Declude for Smartmail 1 domain price of $199. > > > Don't get me wrong, I really like the Declude prodcut. It's so > flexible > that > you can do many different things... > I just can't see how smaller entities like me are going to positively > affected by these changes. > > > > ----------------------------------------------------- > Scott Fisher > Director of IT > Farm Progress Companies > 191 S Gary Ave > Carol Stream, IL 60188 > 630-462-2323 > > This email message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of > the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged > information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution > is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact > the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original > message. 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