There was no human intervention here.  Perhaps there was on the
Declude side of the equation.

I have never liked the 'ET call home' method of license validation. It
is a security risk on its face - nothing personal to Declude and it is
something else that can break. A new license key upon each renewal
would be better IMHO.


Monday, December 26, 2005, 10:05:20 AM, Andy Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
AS> Hi Darrell:

AS> I had been assured by the highest authority that it would require HUMAN
AS> intervention if there was ever going to be a licensing "mismatch" detected,
AS> before the "remote deactivation" of a license.  

AS> We will need to watch for their explanation to see whether that policy has
AS> now changed for the worse -- with the very obvious result everyone had been
AS> fearful of (that any automatic process WILL fail at SOME point.)

AS> I cannot afford to run mission critical applications 24x365, if I have to
AS> blindly rely on the availability of third party resources that I know
AS> nothing about.

AS> Best Regards
AS> Andy Schmidt

AS> Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
AS> Fax:    +1 201 934-9206 


AS> -----Original Message-----
AS> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AS> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell
AS> ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
AS> Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 10:49 AM
AS> To: [email protected]
AS> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] License Downgraded [was All I wan't for
AS> Christmas is not to be paged!)

AS> I sent an email back into support last night as I started having slow
AS> processing again.  I have reverted back to 2.0.6 and all is running well.
>>From what I can tell (AND I COULD BE WRONG) it appears that the 
>>licensing
AS> process is broke at the Declude end.  I *think* one of the name servers they
AS> run (ns.decludekey.us ) for a domain cphzkey.com is/was down over the
AS> weekend.  I am still waiting for support to respond.

AS> I am not going to go into speculation about the licensing process, because I
AS> don't want to feed any bad info because I have no idea how it works. 
AS> However, from what I troubleshoot on my system coupled with reviewing a
AS> user.dmp/dr. watson from the decludeproc during the issue I feel comfortable
AS> in saying my problems that I seen on my system over the weekend are caused
AS> by a failure to validate its license.

AS> Darrell

AS> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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AS> Imail.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG
AS> Integration, and Log Parsers.

AS> ----- Original Message -----
AS> From: "Dave Doherty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
AS> To: <[email protected]>
AS> Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 10:27 AM
AS> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] License Downgraded [was All I wan't for
AS> Christmas is not to be paged!)


>> FWIW,
>>
>> We are not seeing this problem.
>>
>> -d
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Don Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: <[email protected]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 10:10 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] License Downgraded [was All I wan't 
>> for Christmas is not to be paged!)
>>
>>
>>> Our install of Junkmail Pro is also running as standard.  We've 
>>> rebooted several times and can't get it to restore to Pro.
>>>
>>>
>>> Saturday, December 24, 2005, 10:36:37 PM, Darrell
>>> ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Dsic> So here it is the night before Christmas and all though the 
>>> Dsic> house
>>> not a
>>> Dsic> creature was stirring not even a mouse.
>>> Dsic> My pager starts going off incenstantly - so I jump up to see 
>>> Dsic> what's
>>> the
>>> Dsic> matter - oh my queues are filling up faster and faster...
>>> Dsic> Sorry about that - maybe its the Christmas spirit that grabbed
>>> me...
>>>
>>> Dsic> When I got into the server my proc folder was around 2500+ 
>>> Dsic> q*.smd
>>> files.
>>> Dsic> Thank god for QueueMon :)
>>>
>>> Dsic> At first I had no idea what was going on - my proc folder was
>>> growing and
>>> Dsic> growing.  I checked the usual suspects (DNS, etc) and 
>>> Dsic> everything
>>> was working
>>> Dsic> fine.  I started to sift through the logs and noticed a huge 
>>> Dsic> amount
>>> of
>>> Dsic> messages that were failing a lot of tests and should have been 
>>> Dsic> held
>>> or
>>> Dsic> deleted but were being marked with "LAST ACTION=IGNORE".
>>>
>>> Dsic> I bumped up the log levels and started to see the following:
>>>
>>> Dsic> Sorry, filters [REVERSEWEIGHTDNS] are only available in Declude
>>> JunkMail Pro
>>> Dsic> Using [no] CFG file outgoing. Pro version required for outgoing
>>> mail.
>>>
>>> Dsic> Not to mention I noticed messages being cleared very slowly.  
>>> Dsic> After
>>> several
>>> Dsic> restarts of the "Declude Proc" service things started to move
>>> again - I am
>>> Dsic> not sure if it was because of the multiple Declude proc 
>>> Dsic> restarts or
>>> putting
>>> Dsic> in the DNSOVERIDE command that we used back under 2.0.6 see -
>>> Dsic> 
>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg24661.htm
>>> l
>>>
>>> Dsic> After a couple of restarts of the decludeproc service and the
>>> DNSOVERIDE
>>> Dsic> command my Declude started working again as a PRO version and
>>> messages
>>> Dsic> started being blocked and processing very quickly.  My queues 
>>> Dsic> than
>>> cleared
>>> Dsic> up.
>>>
>>> Dsic> I am a bit sick to my stomach over this as I leaked to my 
>>> Dsic> customers
>>> probably
>>> Dsic> 4-6K spam's over the entire 3 hour period from when this 
>>> Dsic> started to
>>> when it
>>> Dsic> was finished.  I will have a bit of explaining to do I imagine 
>>> Dsic> on
>>> Tuesday if
>>> Dsic> not sooner.
>>>
>>> Dsic> Has anyone seen this?  Any explanations on what could have 
>>> Dsic> caused
>>> this.  I
>>> Dsic> just keep thinking what if I did not have monitoring to catch 
>>> Dsic> this
>>> in time -
>>> Dsic> I probably would not have checked the servers until Tuesday.  
>>> Dsic> My
>>> only guess
>>> Dsic> is that my server failed in the "phone home" license check and
>>> downgraded
>>> Dsic> itself.
>>>
>>> Dsic> Darrell
>>> Dsic> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Dsic> --------- Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for 
>>> Dsic> utilities for Declude
>>> And
>>> Dsic> Imail.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI
>>> integration, MRTG
>>> Dsic> Integration, and Log Parsers.
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>> ----
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